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cywong 1/10/2014 23:30

Please help to identify these raptors

Would experienced birdwatchers please help to identify these raptors?
All were seen in Inner Mongolia in Sep2014.
Sorry for the poor quality photos.

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EricB 5/10/2014 05:07

Seems like lots of people have looked at this post but no one has waded in.
Although I would not claim to be an expert on anything, I can help a bit.

Images 1 a,b,c . A harrier species with a clear white rump The broad hand points to one of 2 species - Hen or Pied. I have very little experience with Pied, except when I was a child (many years ago)we used to call all the ‘white rumped ringtails’ at Mai Po ‘Hen’ , when in fact they have now been shown to be ‘Pied’.  In other words, the field guides have been quite poor at differentiating them! I do have reasonable experience with Hen Harrier and this bird looks a bit  different from what I would expect in the following ways:

1.        Image 1c looks a bit short tailed for Hen.
2.        The upper wing coverts are more rufous than I would expect for Hen
3.        I would be surprised if Hen could show  only 3 prominent dark bars on the upper tail(usually shows 4)
So , my money is on a Pied Harrier for raptor 1.

Raptor 2-
This looks good for Common Buzzard (Buteo buteo vulpinus) . Very similar to this image - [url]http://orientalbirdimages.org/search.php?Bird_ID=913&Bird_Image_ID=89238&Bird_Family_ID=&p=1[/url]


Raptor 3 - looks pretty typical of Eastern Buzzard.

Raptor 4-  The prominent feature is the dark carpel patch on a very pale broad underwing. The only 2 raptors I can think of in the region are a Buzzard sp or an Osprey . Clearly this is not an Osprey! So, I think this is probably another Eastern Buzzard but I may be way off target here.

Raptor 5 is a Eurasian Kestrel. The moustache stripe is too prominent for Lesser Kestrel.

Hope this sheds some light or opens up more debate.
Best wishes
Eric

cywong 5/10/2014 09:34

Hello Eric,

Thank you very much for your reply and detailed explanation.

I understand that these images are not good and do not show the birds' features clearly, so it is difficult to identify them.

I am grateful for your help.

Cherry
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