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Please help ID

5.10.2008 Long Valley
Is it impossible to tell the species of snipe just by the upperparts?
[img]http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3173/2915462568_786e79a866.jpg[/img]

23.11.2008 Lai Chi Kok
The followings are the same bird:
[img]http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3162/3052642628_3405e70458.jpg[/img]
[img]http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3141/3052642632_e5470b9290.jpg[/img]
[img]http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3295/3052642636_e08bab1ce0.jpg[/img]
Is it an Oriental Reed Warbler or something else?

23.11.2008 Lai Chi Kok
[img]http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3010/3052642624_a3590bd073.jpg[/img]
[img]http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3154/3052642626_c29572bb4c.jpg[/img]
Is it a male Common Kestrel and not a Lesser Kestrel?

Thankyou very much.

For the snipe I would say Pintail/Swinhoe's: these have paler shoulders and thinner eyestripe at the lores on average. The warbler looks good for Oriental Reed Warbler; the Kestrel has a prominent moustache, and if the diamond shaped tail and yellow claws aren't seen well it's very hard to argue for a lesser kestrel in Hong Kong given its range ^^". But we're always in for surprises, aren't we?

Hi Koel,
Thanks for your reply with detailed explaination.