fatchun 5/11/2009 19:45
ID please =] ( the photos are further adjusted)
In Hong Kong Zoological and Botanical Gardens
05-11-2009
The size of it is a bit smaller than spotted dove and slimmer.
The beak was black and pointed.
It was relative grey in color.
I saw a dark color after the eye.
When I first saw it, I thought it was a large cuckoo shrike..
But the beak was relatively pointed and I saw that it's eye was dark(not like the red eyes in book).
However, I actually could see the darker face of it.
Can anyone help to ID it?3551sweat445
[img]http://lh3.ggpht.com/_gKlwPk4F2go/SvLgF__tA3I/AAAAAAAAAI8/JW1pgBQWhHA/s400/DSCF2658_2.jpg[/img]
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[img]http://lh5.ggpht.com/_gKlwPk4F2go/SvLgHGryd_I/AAAAAAAAAJE/HLAlhbXicws/s512/DSCF2664_3.jpg[/img]
[img]http://lh4.ggpht.com/_gKlwPk4F2go/SvLgH7-SzQI/AAAAAAAAAJI/KLuSapftUgM/s512/DSCF2665_4.jpg[/img]
[img]http://lh3.ggpht.com/_gKlwPk4F2go/SvLgI6MZKJI/AAAAAAAAAJM/zhucSO0oQYA/s512/DSCF2666_5.jpg[/img]
THANK YOU!~~3551875328cc445
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thinfor 5/11/2009 20:05
I could see some brown or grey color in the underpart. From the appearance and the size you have mentioned, could it be a Grey Treepie? 3551a50445 But the bill doesn't fit...Or could it be a black-winged cuckooshrike (but the size should be much smaller than a common spotted dove...)
fatchun 5/11/2009 20:19
[quote]Original posted by [i]thinfor[/i] at 5/11/2009 20:05 [url=http://www.hkbws.org.hk/BBS/redirect.php?goto=findpost&pid=23741&ptid=9380][img]http://www.hkbws.org.hk/BBS/images/common/back.gif[/img][/url]
I could see some brown or grey color in the underpart. From the appearance and the size you have mentioned, could it be a Grey Treepie? 3551a50445 But the bill doesn't fit...Or could it be a black-w ... [/quote]
I think it could not be a black-winged cuckooshrike because the under part of the tail do not have white spots3551ee1a2adb445
And the color may not so "real" as I have adjusted the light=_="""...Sorry for the poor photos3551cry445
Actually I saw dark grey color
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lchunfai 5/11/2009 21:32
[quote]Original posted by [i]fatchun[/i] at 5/11/2009 20:19 [url=http://www.hkbws.org.hk/BBS/redirect.php?goto=findpost&pid=23743&ptid=9380][img]http://www.hkbws.org.hk/BBS/images/common/back.gif[/img][/url]
I think it could not be a black-winged cuckooshrike because the under part of the tail do not have white spots3551ee1a2adb445
And the color may not so "real" as I have adjusted the light=_="""... ... [/quote]
May it be a starling? 。。。。 White shouldered??3551a50445
But a White shouldered starling is much smaller than a spotted dove 3551sweat445 3551sweat445
kkoel 5/11/2009 21:51
I think it's a Plaintive Cuckoo. There is a hint of grey head and orange breast in the first few photos, and the bill and tail shape both fit. =)
By the way, you won't see the beautiful red eyes of the Cuckoo-Shrike unless it faces you, is really close, and is in very good light.
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HFCheung 5/11/2009 21:51
Blackbird? The head and fact seem to be brown, and the throat is paler with streaks.
fatchun 5/11/2009 22:03
[quote]Original posted by [i]kkoel[/i] at 5/11/2009 21:51 [url=http://www.hkbws.org.hk/BBS/redirect.php?goto=findpost&pid=23763&ptid=9380][img]http://www.hkbws.org.hk/BBS/images/common/back.gif[/img][/url]
I think it's a Plaintive Cuckoo. There is a hint of grey head and orange breast in the first few photos, and the bill and tail shape both fit. =)
By the way, you won't see the beautiful red eyes of t ... [/quote]
I think the Plaintive Cuckoo is a little bit smaller than this bird3551a50445
and the tail of it do not have streak3551sweat445
also, I think it is grey in color for the whole bird when I use binocular to see3551ee1a2adb445
But there may be many variation...
OMG,I think my photos are so poor for ID35516184ceba445 ....
as I take the photo through binocular and there was a strong light at the back.....3551em015445
Thanks All3551f60952e1445
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fatchun 5/11/2009 22:08
Sorry for all, I try my best to adjust the photos again! Pleas waiting for me3551cry445 ...Thank you..
thinfor 5/11/2009 23:40
Koel, I have thought of plaintive cuckoo too but the size was a bit too small. Disregard of the size, I think it's most likely a plaintive cuckoo. 3551smile445
fatchun 5/11/2009 23:49
[quote]Original posted by [i]thinfor[/i] at 5/11/2009 23:40 [url=http://www.hkbws.org.hk/BBS/redirect.php?goto=findpost&pid=23783&ptid=9380][img]http://www.hkbws.org.hk/BBS/images/common/back.gif[/img][/url]
Koel, I have thought of plaintive cuckoo too but the size was a bit too small. Disregard of the size, I think it's most likely a plaintive cuckoo. 3551smile445 [/quote]
Is the streak of plaintive cuckoo's tail not always be seen?
It is because I haven't see the streak of the tail, so I reject the chance of plaintive cuckoo today..
Thank you3551485c3a61445
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fatchun 6/11/2009 00:06
wll it be a drongo cockoo?
kkoel 6/11/2009 01:06
My wrong, actually I think Plaintive would show a much shorter bill than this, and the tail should be graduated, not square-tipped. I should have realized that colors are more tricky than the shape..XD
I think I'll go with Fai Gor on this one - Blackbird - esp. considering the photo of bird with fine throat streaks! The greyness of the bird may be due to back-lighting. I admit I haven't seen such a light individual on photo, but some Blackbirds are simply not black, so any alteration in viewing conditions may give different impressions.
(Don't think it can be Drongo Cuckoo - it is black and the tail is more triangular)
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lmichael 6/11/2009 10:34
I think that the reason why there is so much discussion on this bird is that it is not a native species; i.e. probably an escaped cagebird. I am not sure what it is but structure, tail shape and bill size and shape suggests one of the larger honeyeaters to me. Location is a likely one for an escape. If you can get any more photos I would be happy to comment but I don't think that ID can be confirmed with these.
Mike Leven
fatchun 6/11/2009 21:51
Thank you for discussion~ I think it is quite strange to me..
And I think I need to go around the birdcages to see wheather any bird look similar to this~
( Sorry for guessing this was drongo cuckoo~3551875328cc445 )
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