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Leica 800mm

I would like to know more about this lens. There are so many nice photos posted.

Appreciate any assistance in pointing out more information about this type of lens.

Thanks.

Hi tsawong,

  You may go to this web page: [url]http://en.leica-camera.com/photography/r_system/lenses/3808.html[/url]
  to got more information.

Thomas.

Dear Thomas,

Thanks.  I have a Canon Camera and 100-400mm Lens.  I wonder what is the differnce in Leica 800mm Lens (which many of our birders are using) as compared to a Canon 800mm Lens which is very expensive.

Is this related to auto-focus function?  What is a proper set up with Canon (say 7D or 5D Mark II) with Leica 800mm.  Can it be just 'plug and play'?  

A stupid question:  where to get the Leica 800mm and approximate cost of it?

Thanks in advance for assistance.

TSA

Dear TSA,

  The lens is operated in manually. If you wanted AF, Canon 800mm is the choose.
  It is using a Leica R to Canon EOS adaptor to join the EOS. The adaptor is easy to buy.
  You can ask one of the biggest and olderest camera shop in Mong Kok about its details.
  Or you can find the main dealer in HK in this web page:[url]http://en.leica-camera.com/service/dealer_locator/[/url]
  You may find 2nd hand lens in Taiwan more easily.
  I bought it 6 years ago. It costed Euro10000.
  It may cost 2 sets of Canon 800mm now...

Thomas.

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Dear Thomas,

Much appreciate your advice.  Indeed, these gears are not cheap at all.

I need to think twice again.  

Thanks again.

TSA

Just saw two photos on the Bird's ID section, taken by Leica 800mm + 7D, frankly speaking, I'm disappointed by the quality of the photos......and at such price.... don't get me wrong, has noting to do with cthomas, I am talking about the equipment.

Bird Identification(雀鳥辨識) 论区里看见这两张照，用Lecia 800mm + 7D拍摄的...照片的质素实在教我失望..别误会，跟跟作者无关，指的是仪器...

[url]http://www.hkbws.org.hk/BBS/viewthread.php?tid=9749&extra=page%3D1[/url]

[[i] Last edited by Robbin at 2/12/2009 18:46 [/i]]

It is not fair to comment the quality of equipment based on the posted photos of such small sizes.

I think if you look at Thomas's other posts, you will see that the quality is much much higher!! Very good work of a manual lens too!! May I know which lens is heavier?? The Canon or Leica??35511875cee9445

Without doubt, most of the lenses from Leica are excellent in resolution and color renditioning and they deserve to be fitted on DSLRs of a better digital processing engine and a bigger pixel size in order to show their worth.
A pity, however, that these lenses do not go autofocus.
Without second thought, I would say that Leica's must be way heavier than Canon's. I have not seen CThomas in person but I am sure that his arms must be like Popeye's, having carried such a heavy tool around in the field for years.
Pete

[[i] Last edited by lwingkay at 2/12/2009 23:27 [/i]]

Thanks for all reply!

Robbin,

  The distance between me and the plovers may be over 100m.
  Here is the orginal photo:

  [img]http://images5.fotop.net/albums3/ThomasChan/Kentish_Plover/dec_1_09_5.jpg[/img]

  The equipment may not handle a 17cm object in distance over 100m  very well.

Kmatthew,

  I think Leica 800mm is heavier because it is almost 7kg.

Thomas.

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[quote]...............his arms must be like Popeye'sn  ... [/quote]

I like that descritpion, funny.

I still think for over 10,000Euro, I'd have expected more of the eqt., may be it was the low light....oh well... what U use is yr own choice, have fun with it by all means.

Thx Cthomas.

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[quote]Original posted by [i]Robbin[/i] at 2/12/2009 23:46 [url=http://www.hkbws.org.hk/BBS/redirect.php?goto=findpost&pid=25161&ptid=9640][img]http://www.hkbws.org.hk/BBS/images/common/back.gif[/img][/url]


I like that descritpion, funny.

I still think for over 10,000Euro, it does not pay as expected, may be it was the low light....oh well... what U use is yr own choice, have fun with it by all means. ... [/quote]


I have no derogative or disrespectful meaning in comparing Cthomas' arms to Popeye's. Hoped that Thomas has not been offended by that.  Pete

[quote]Original posted by [i]lwingkay[/i] at 2/12/2009 23:12 [url=http://www.hkbws.org.hk/BBS/redirect.php?goto=findpost&pid=25154&ptid=9640][img]http://www.hkbws.org.hk/BBS/images/common/back.gif[/img][/url]
Without doubt, most of the lenses from Leica are excellent in resolution and color renditioning and they deserve to be fitted on DSLRs of a better digital processing engine and a bigger pixel size in  ... [/quote]

Pete,

  Thanks for your reply!

  I am so slim. 3551f6eb47d3445

Thomas.

Thomas photo quality attracted my attention and hence I asked the question.  I am not very sure what I should do if I would like to upgrade my gear.

Canon 800 mm spec as per attached link.  

[url]http://www.canon.com.hk/en/Consumer/Product/ProductDetail.aspx?product_id=100153&series_id=47&tag_id=12287[/url]

It weights 4.5 KG and it is indeed not cheap.  Of course, there were also plenty high quality photos posted recently.

Some birders are using 500mm plus an extension lens to achieve approx 800mm.  Perhaps we need some good advices on differnt set ups in related to their autofocus ability.  With such distance, is autofocus effectively?  I may ask another stupid question.

Thanks in advance for more information,

tsa

For using teleconvertor, I would suggest to use on f2.8 lenses only. For f4 lenses, it affects the PQ and AF speed, maximum I would use is 1.4x on those lenses (in fact, prefer not using one). Sometime you may find cropping the picture will result in better quality. In my opinion, whether you choose 500/600/800 is a matter of price and portability. Many chings go for 500mm base on price and portability.

If you think Canon 800mm lens is expensive and heavy, Leica 800mm definitively is not your choice. Canon 800mm is lighter than 600mm due to smaller max. apetitude. Hope it helps.

Thanks for info and advice.

I went to Canon show room and they did not have a 800mm lens for demo.  Would appreciate further advice where we can have hands-on feeling/testing for such lens.

Thanks again.

tsa.

I saw two(2) 2nd hand 1.4/f 500mm Canon in TST, asking for around HK$28,600, those who are interested might want to go and have a look.  This lens is too big for me.....I mean if I go hiking, I wouldn't want to carry it, the 800mm is even bigger and heavier.

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