HFCheung

Dear birdwatchers (including photographers),

We need to get all the Photoguide materials ready very soon for production.  If you have good photos that you have not submitted, please do it soon.  Not only do we need rare birds, we also need excellent photo of common birds.  Please submit it to Shing or the HKBWS office.  If you have not visited our office, this is good time to do so.

Here are a list of birds I think photo is lacking.  If you have any photo of these species, and if you don't mind letting us use it, please send them to us.

Greater White-fronted Goose        白額雁
Green-winged Teal        美洲綠翅鴨
Yellow-legged Button-quail        黃腳三趾鶉
Brown Crake        紅腳苦惡鳥
White-throated Needletail        白喉針尾雨燕
Silver-backed Needletail        灰喉針尾雨燕
Common Swift        普通樓燕
Oriental Skylark        小雲雀
Japanese Robin        日本歌鴝
Siberian Thrush        白眉地鶇
Spotted Bush Warbler        斑胸短翅鶯
Brown Bush Warbler        棕褐短翅鶯
Russet Bush Warbler        高山短翅鶯
Lanceolated Warbler        矛斑蝗鶯
Hume's Leaf Warbler        淡眉柳鶯
Blue-throated Flycatcher        藍喉仙鶲
Yellow-throated Bunting        黃喉鵐
Japanese Reed Bunting        紅頸葦鵐
Eurasian Siskin        黃雀
Japanese Grosbeak        黑頭蠟嘴雀
Purple Swamp-hen        紫水雞
White-capped Redstart        白頂溪鴝
Hill Blue Flycatcher        山藍仙鶲
White-throated Fantail        白喉扇尾鶲

The rules are:
1. Photo must be taken in HK by person who submit it
2. Must submit information on the date and place of the photo
3. The photo is for one-time use by the publisher.  The photographer still own all rights to the photo.
4. We will not pay money to use the photo, but contributors can get a free copy of the new photoguide if their photo is chosen.
5. A small committee of HKBWS will select the photo.

HF Cheung

yyattung

Would you mind to provide the email address for submitting the photos?

[ Last edited by yyattung at 7/01/2009 14:29 ]

HKBWS Vicky

Please send photos to the email address below:
photoguide2@yahoo.com.hk

lpaul

Do you want photos of birds in the hand? For a number of these species (and some others not listed) these are the only photos that exist of Hong Kong birds.

HFCheung

Sorry, we would not take bird-in-hand photo in this photoguide.  May be we should accept them in another publication.

HF Cheung

HKBWS WY

各野鳥拍攝人,

  我們會於農曆新年前 (20/1 或 21/1) 舉行會議, 討論照片篩選的事, 希望您們能於會議前提交照片.
  先感謝大家前圖鑑的支持!!!

香港觀鳥會

Dear Photographers,

A meeting will be held before the Lunnar New Year (probably 20/1 or 21/1) to talk about the selection of photos. It would be great if you could send your photos to us before the meeting.

Thank you very much!!!

HKBWS

HFCheung

Dear birdwatchers,

大家多多幫忙！

Here are more information on the photos that we need for the photo guide.  These are not all, but these are the most critical at this point.  These are species that we know photos are available somewhere.  Those species that are marked "no photo" means we have not got any new photo submitted this time (or even last time).  We may have to re-use the photo that we have last time if they are any.  Species with a "C" grade mean that we already got some low quality photos but they are not good enough for production.  Species with a "B" grade means that we already got some photos with reasonable quality, but for production purposes, better quality photos are highly desirable.  I hope this list will allow birdwatcher to know what particular species are desparately needed by us, so that they can spend time sorting their collection effectively.  Thank you.

1.5        Yellow-billed Loon        白嘴潛鳥        no photo
5        Black-necked Grebe        黑頸        no photo
7        Dalmatian Pelican        卷羽鵜鶘        no photo
8        Red-footed Booby        紅腳鰹鳥        no photo
12        Great Frigatebird        小軍艦鳥        no photo
31        Black Stork        黑鸛        no photo
33        Black-headed Ibis        黑頭白鹮        no photo
42        Mandarin Duck        鴛鴦        no photo
46        Baikal Teal        花臉鴨        no photo
55        Baer's Pochard        青頭潛鴨        no photo
56        Ferruginous Duck        白眼潛鴨        no photo
58        Greater Scaup        斑背潛鴨        no photo
59.5        Black Scotor        黑海番鴨        no photo
61        Smew        白秋沙鴨        no photo
65        Crested Honey Buzzard        鳳頭蜂鷹        no photo
68        Brahminy Kite        栗鳶        no photo
70        Eurasian Black Vulture        禿鷲        no photo
89        Japanese Quail        日本鵪鶉        no photo
91        Barred Button-quail        棕三趾鶉        no photo
100        Brown Crake        紅腳苦惡鳥        no photo
102        Watercock        董雞        no photo
104        Eurasian Coot        骨頂雞        no photo
115        Long-billed Plover        長嘴劍鴴        no photo
120        Oriental Plover        東方鴴        no photo
126        Far Eastern Curlew        大杓鷸        no photo
142.5        Pintail/Swinhoe's Snipe        針尾/大沙錐        no photo
144        Common Snipe        扇尾沙錐        no photo
145        Long-billed Dowitcher        長嘴鷸        no photo
147        Red Knot        紅腹濱鷸        no photo
151        Little Stint        小濱鷸        no photo
156        Dunlin        黑腹濱鷸        no photo
158        Spoon-billed Sandpiper        勺嘴鷸        no photo
164        Mew Gull        海鷗        no photo
167        Slaty-backed Gull        灰背鷗        no photo
169        Glaucous Gull        北極鷗        no photo
170        Pallas's Gull        漁鷗        no photo
172        Relict Gull         遺鷗        no photo
174        Slender-billed Gull        細嘴鷗        no photo
188        Little Tern        白額燕鷗        no photo
202        Large Hawk Cuckoo        鷹鵑        no photo
203        Northern Hawk Cuckoo        北方鷹鵑        no photo
218        Short-eared Owl        短耳鴞        no photo
221        Himalayan Swiftlet        短嘴金絲燕        no photo
222        White-throated Needletail        白喉針尾雨燕        no photo
227        Crested Kingfisher        冠魚狗        no photo
233        Blue-throated Bee-eater        藍喉蜂虎        no photo
237        Great Barbet        大擬啄木鳥        no photo
243        Bay Woodpecker        黃嘴栗啄木鳥        no photo
244        Fairy Pitta        仙八色鶇        no photo
245        Blue-winged Pitta        藍翅八色鶇        no photo
247        Eurasian Skylark        雲雀        no photo
252        Red-rumped Swallow        金腰燕        no photo
253        Asian House Martin        煙腹毛腳燕        no photo
263.5        Water Pipit        水鷚        no photo
279.5        Red-backed Shrike        紅背伯勞        no photo
285        Bluethroat        藍喉歌鴝        no photo
306        Pale Thrush        白腹鶇        no photo
311        Chinese Babax        矛紋草鶥        no photo
319        Blue-winged Minla        藍翅希鶥        no photo
327.1        Spotted Bush Warbler        斑胸短翅鶯        no photo
355        Hume's Leaf Warbler        淡眉柳鶯        no photo
361.7        Willow Warbler                no photo
363        Bianchi's Warbler        比氏鶲鶯        no photo
364        Chestnut-crowned Warbler        栗頭鶲鶯        no photo
365        Rufous-faced Warbler        棕臉鶲鶯        no photo
365.5        Lesser Whitethroat        白喉林鶯        no photo
366        Brown-chested Jungle Flycatcher        白喉林鶲        no photo
374        Green-backed Flycatcher        綠背姬鶲        no photo
379.5        Rufous-bellied Niltava        棕腹仙鶲        no photo
392        Plain Flowerpecker        純色啄花鳥        no photo
404        Rustic Bunting        田鵐        no photo
423        Russet Sparrow        山麻雀        no photo
427        Red-billed Starling        絲光椋鳥        no photo
428        Chestnut-cheeked Starling        紫背椋鳥        no photo
430        Rose-coloured Starling        粉紅椋鳥        no photo
431        Common Starling        紫翅椋鳥        no photo
446        Carrion Crow        小嘴烏鴉        no photo
713        Salmon-crested Cockatoo                no photo
730        Australasian Bushlark        歌百靈        no photo
733        Collared Finchbill        領雀嘴鵯        no photo
743        White-tailed Robin        白尾藍地鴝        no photo
758        Grey-headed Parrotbill        灰頭鴉雀        no photo
761        Hill Blue Flycatcher        山藍仙鶲        no photo
764        Black-throated Tit        紅頭長尾山雀        no photo
62        Red-breasted Merganser        紅胸秋沙鴨        C
140        Red Phalarope        灰瓣蹼鷸        C
177        Black-legged Kittiwake        三趾鷗        C
189.5        Brown Noody        玄燕鷗        C
190        Ancient Murrelet        扁嘴海雀        C
190.5        Japanese Murrelet        冠海雀        C
214        Eurasian Eagle Owl        雕鴞        C
223        Silver-backed Needletail        灰喉針尾雨燕        C
234        Blue-tailed Bee-eater        栗喉蜂虎        C
239        Speckled Piculet        斑姬啄木鳥        C
280        Japanese Waxwing        小太平鳥        C
357        Greenish Warbler        暗綠柳鶯        C
408        Black-headed Bunting        黑頭鵐        C
41        Cotton Pygmy-goose        棉鳧        B-
6.5        Short-tailed Shearwater        短尾鸌        B
9        Brown Booby        褐鰹鳥        B
13        Lesser Frigatebird        白斑軍艦鳥        B
29        Black Bittern        黑鳽        B
32        Oriental Stork        東方白鸛        B
40        Common Shelduck        翹鼻麻鴨        B
52        Garganey        白眉鴨        B
54        Common Pochard        紅頭潛鴨        B
57        Tufted Duck        鳳頭潛鴨        B
64        Black Baza        黑冠鵑隼        B
72        Grey-faced Buzzard        灰臉鵟鷹        B
86        Eurasian Hobby        燕隼        B
94        Water Rail        普通秧雞        B
114        Common Ringed Plover        劍鴴        B
121        Black-tailed Godwit        黑尾塍鷸        B
122        Bar-tailed Godwit        斑尾塍鷸        B
124        Whimbrel        中杓鷸        B
154        Pectoral Sandpiper        斑胸濱鷸        B
159        Broad-billed Sandpiper        闊嘴鷸        B
165        Heuglin's Gull        灰林銀鷗        B
187        Sooty Tern        烏燕鷗        B
196        Emerald Dove        綠翅金鳩        B
201        Chestnut-winged Cuckoo        紅翅鳳頭鵑        B
204        Indian Cuckoo        四聲杜鵑        B
205        Horsfield's Cuckoo        北方中杜鵑        B
207.5        Drongo Cuckoo        烏鵑        B
207.6        Common Cuckoo        大杜鵑        B
219        Grey Nightjar        普通夜鷹        B
226        Little Swift        小白腰雨燕        B
228        Pied Kingfisher        斑魚狗        B
274        Black Bulbul        黑[短腳]鵯        B
276        Tiger Shrike        虎紋伯勞        B
326        Brownish-flanked Bush Warbler        強腳樹鶯        B
330        Large Grass Warbler        大草鶯        B
344        Bright-capped Cisticola        金頭扇尾鶯        B
358        Pale-legged Leaf Warbler        灰腳柳鶯        B
375        Mugimaki Flycatcher        鴝鶲        B
377        Red-throated Flycatcher        紅胸鶲        B
383        Grey-headed Flycatcher        方尾鶲        B
387        Chinese Penduline Tit        中華攀雀        B
394        Scarlet-backed Flowerpecker        朱背啄花鳥        B
396        Chestnut-flanked White-eye        紅脅繡眼鳥        B
398        Crested Bunting        鳳頭鵐        B
399.1        Ortolan Bunting        圃鵐        B
401        Chestnut-eared Bunting        栗耳鵐        B
405        Yellow-throated Bunting        黃喉鵐        B
415        Grey-capped Greenfinch        金翅雀        B
417        Common Rosefinch        普通朱雀        B
419        Japanese Grosbeak        黑頭蠟嘴雀        B
429        Purple-backed Starling        北椋鳥        B
443        Grey Treepie        灰樹鵲        B
445        Daurian Jackdaw        達烏裏寒鴉        B
447        Large-billed Crow        大嘴烏鴉        B
708.5        Eurasian Collared Dove        灰斑鳩        B
744        Pied Bushchat        白斑黑石鵖        B
776        Yellow-fronted Canary        黄额丝雀        B

HF Cheung

[ Last edited by HFCheung at 14/01/2009 11:39 ]

yyattung

Very surprise!!!

No photo of the Yellow-billed Loon???

Poor photo of Grey Phalarope???? the one at Nam Chung was so cooperative!

Short-tailed Shearwater only in 'B' photo????

John Holmes

I think some guidance as to file size and format of submissions would encourage photographers to send more photos in.

An example: "jpeg files, size 18 cm by 12 cm at 300 dpi" or whatever is required.
Is it preferred that photos be Emailed, or should they be posted on CD/DVDs ?

Is the photoguide going to have the same layout as the previous one ? If different, this should be made clear.

Previous submissions for this photoguide were made more than a year ago. Now we know where the "gaps" in the collected photos are, I'm sure we can move forward.

HKBWS Vicky

The guidelines of photo submission was posted some days ago by Shing. Here it is:
http://www.hkbws.org.hk/BBS/view ... &extra=page%3D1

I've quoted the photo requirement and naming here:
Photo requirement
Photo size: Minium-1200 x 800 pixels, Maxium-As high as possible
File format: jpeg or tiff (file size less than 20Mb)
-Only digital image would be accepted. If you would like to contribute film or slide, please kindly help to scan them into digital format.
-Make sure the bird(s) you taken is/ are wild birds and taken in Hong Kong.

File naming (Important)
To avoid confusion and easy reference, please name the photo files in the following format which contains 4 fields.
3-digit-speciesNumber_PhotographerEnglishName_PhotoTakingDate_PhotoTakingLocation
For example:
Ann Chan took the photo of Chinese Bulbul at Kowloon Park on 8 Aug 2003. The photo should be named as: 271_Ann Chan_Aug2003_Kowloon Park
-For species number, please refer to the attached file: HKList2008.xls
-All file names should NOT contain Chinese character to avoid error in coding.
-If the date or location of photo taken is unknown, please put NA to represent. (e.g. 271_Ann Chan_NA_Kowloon Park). However, species number and English name of photographer must be included.
-Sufficient information of photo is one of the criteria to make the selection.

HFCheung

This is in response to Tung's message.  I find it totally surprising too, but that is the reality.  I know a lot of people have photo of the Grey Phalarope in Nam Chung, but there is no submission from that site.  My feeling is that some worry about being accused of getting too close to the bird.

We have to work from here.

HF Cheung

John Holmes

Thanks for reminding us about the submission guidelines, I had overlooked these...

John

[ Last edited by John Holmes at 14/01/2009 11:59 ]

nlinyau

輝哥 ,聽講好似有部份入選相片仲係用閃燈拍攝 ,但如果有選擇的 ,可唔可以盡量唔用呢 ?
雖然討論過好多次 ,又一定會有人話我長氣 ,但呢樣東西的確令好多攝鳥人反感的 .加上攝影圖鑑呢本書應該係起到教育大眾作用的 ,希望唔好因此而有反效果
過去了已經改唔到的事我唔會怪任何人 ,可能因當時科技及人的意識等等問題 ...... 但人同科技都會進步的 ,所以我只希望現在做得會更好

我2009年還未續會 ,我自己都希望會繼續做會員 ,作為支持貴會的一個行動


.......不過就算唔續會 ,我都樂意同各位繼續做朋友及提供有用資料


....之前語氣可能重左D ,現在修改少少

[ Last edited by nlinyau at 17/01/2009 01:43 ]

HFCheung

Dear Yau,

Although we do not recommand using flash, I think using flash is sometimes necessary.  The photo selection team (of which I am a member) will make decision whether to ban all flash photos.

I saw an article about you as a photographer in a DC Photo magazine.  Nice report.

HF Cheung

yyattung

Personally, I accept photos taken with flash.

nlinyau

多謝輝哥的回答

鶇哥我好明白你們著緊記錄呢樣東西 ,亦唔會怪你地用閃 ,只不過係我自己就會堅決唔用o甘解

不過用還用盡量細D power ,減低影響會好D ... 看過一張相係用20D + 400/4 DO 拍攝 ,呢部機高ISO都唔差 ,但攝影者竟然用到ISO200 ,F9.0 ,相信閃燈無fullpower都有1/2 ,完全係以一張好o既相為先 ,心態o既問題 ..... 希望呢方面可以改一改