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Subject: [Hong Kong] 齊來救塱原以文字與圖片Help to Save Long Valley with Words & Photo [Print This Page]
Author: HKBWS WY    Time: 5/01/2010 20:40     Subject: 齊來救塱原以文字與圖片Help to Save Long Valley with Words & Photo



以上反對標誌可按此下載
Click here to download the above campaign logo
鳴謝 James Lam 的設計　Thank you James Lam for the design

請立即把反對信電郵或傳真至以下部門：

規劃署規劃研究組
香港北角北角政府合署16樓
電郵:srpd@pland.gov.hk
傳真:2522 8524

土木工程拓展署新界西及北拓展處
新界沙田上禾輋路1號沙田政府合署9樓
電郵:paulng@cedd.gov.hk
傳真:2693 2918

Please send your objection letter immediately to the following departments:

Studies and Research Section, Planning Department
16/F, North Point Government Offices,
North Point,Hong Kong
Email:srpd@pland.gov.hk
Fax:2522 8524

New Territories North and West Development Office
Civil Engineering and Development Department
9/F., Sha Tin Government Offices
Shatin, NT
Email:paulng@cedd.gov.hk
Fax:2693 2918

請各位將反對信或/及相片副本抄送到conservation@hkbws.org.hk 好讓我們有個紀錄。
電郵中請寫上閣下之姓名和反對的原因，這樣會減低被當作單一反對的機會。

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Author: HKBWS WY    Time: 5/01/2010 21:16

Summary of the HKBWS submission to the

North East New Territories Development Study


The following is a summary of the HKBWS submission to the North EastNew Territories Development Study, in which Planning Department has proposed tozone Long Valley for development. We explain why this is unacceptable, andpropose that it should be resumed, and zoned for conservation instead. Aconservation zoning would also recognize LongValley’s importance for people - as a place to enjoy Hong Kong’s agricultural and natural heritage, and as a site whereconservation became the priority despite our trash and cash developmentculture.

You can still make a submission expressing your views on Long Valley by emailing to srpd@pland.gov.hk before 12 January. If you do, please send a copy to HKBWS at conservation@hkbws.org.hk. We are also keen for photographers to support the campaign, and have created a logo to add to pix of birds taken in Long Valley.  The logo can be downloaded from the HKBWS website at http://www.hkbws.org.hk/doc/CDNCEA.zip and from the HKWildlife website at http://www.hkwildlife.net/doc/CDNCEA.zip

Summary of HKBWS Submission

1. Long Valley is universally recognized for its high ecological value.
Long Valley has been recognized for its ecological value, not just by HKBWS, but by many other environmental groups, all the relevant government departments and bureaux, and even by those who have tried to damage its ecological value.  
•        Ten years ago KCRC recognized Long Valley’s high ecological value but tried to trash it. Ten years later Planning Department have again recognized its high ecological value, and have proposed a zoning that could trash it.
•        Back then AFCD and EPD fought in a tribunal to protect it, and in 2004 they identified Long Valley as one of 12 sites of outstanding ecological value under the nature conservation policy.
•        Back then the Advisory Council on the Environment refused to endorse KCRC’s EIA for Long Valley, and in December ACE refused to endorse the proposal unless Long Valley was zoned as a Nature Park.
•        The Environmental & Conservation Fund has given Conservancy Association and HKBWS substantial funding to enhance its biodiversity, to protect its agricultural heritage, and to share Long Valley with the wider public.
•        The 5 Black-faced Spoonbills that have visited the drained fishpond in the last few days and the Yellow Breasted Buntings that came onto the rice fields – both are threatened species newly attracted by our successful management!

2. So what’s the problem?
PlanD has been urged by landowners to zone the site for development. They claim that because they own the land they have the right to develop it. This is not true. Right now Long Valley is zoned for “Agriculture”. This means that landowners can only use the land for farming. To develop the land they must apply to change the zoning. If you have to apply, there is no right. End of story.

But PlanD has “respected” the views of villagers and tried to compromise, with a zoning that seems to allow for both, called Comprehensive Development Nature Conservation Enhancement Area (CDNCEA). The idea is that a developer will develop a part of the site, but must commit to protect and enhance the ecological value of the rest of the site.

Apart from creating a false expectation in landowners that they do have a right to develop, there are two problems with this zoning:

1.        It creates an assumption that it is OK to develop Long Valley, and increases pressure for development. It is not OK. According to the basic principles of town planning, sites of high ecological value should zoned for conservation.
2.        Long Valley can only be protected if part of the site is developed: so CDNCEA means: “No development, no conservation”. But remember, for private developers nature conservation is only ever a means to an end, never an end in itself.

3.         What’s the alternative?
There are two parts to the HKBWS proposal:

•        Long Valley should be given a purely conservation zoning
PlanD is supposed to establish zonings reflecting the current value of the land. Long Valley is an area of outstanding ecological value. Conservation zonings – Conservation Area, Nature Park, Nature Reserve, or Site of Special Scientific Interest all offer better protection of ecological value, with no need for compromise, and no need to rely on the good will of developers.

•        The Government should resume Long Valley.
HKBWS fully supports the resumption of Long Valley up to the boundaries set out by AFCD and published on its website at: http://www.afcd.gov.hk/english/c ... ho_sheung_heung.pdf Once it is Government land no one else can develop it. If LV is zoned for conservation and owned by the Government, it should be safe forever.

4.         Everyone wins
Even though some officials claim that land cannot be resumed for conservation, this is not true. In fact there is a very good precedent. The Government resumed the land for the Wetland Park because of the ecological value of the fishponds at Tin Shui Wai. What has been done before, can be done again!

However, if the Government resumes Long Valley as part of the Kwu Tung North New Town, the landowners will be compensated at a fixed rate that is much more than their land is worth for agriculture. If the Government do this then everybody wins – the landowners, the wildlife, the environmental groups and birders, villagers who oppose development, and the future residents of Kwu Tung.

It is important to remember that Long Valley is too small and too sensitive to turn into another Wetland Park. Fortunately there is relatively disturbance-free access along the drainage channel access road on the edge of the site. Careful planning will allow many people to enjoy Long Valley with minimal disturbance.
Author: james4j    Time: 5/01/2010 21:53

支持!!支持!!支持!!













Author: puppymic    Time: 5/01/2010 23:06

I object to the proposal of zoning Long Valley as a Comprehensive Development Nature Conservation Enhancement Area.





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Author: puppymic    Time: 5/01/2010 23:23

點解我開出黎個  logo 會變成 CDWEA ？

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Author: Allen    Time: 5/01/2010 23:59







Author: ckuifai    Time: 6/01/2010 00:25

支持!  支持!

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Author: bmw343hp    Time: 6/01/2010 09:36

100% Support
Author: GEOFFREYLI    Time: 6/01/2010 10:27

請大家齊齊來救救塱原！！



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Author: HKBWS WY    Time: 6/01/2010 11:26

請使用"CDNCEA"的標誌.
Please use the "CDNCEA" logo.
Author: smp    Time: 6/01/2010 11:50







Author: wdickson    Time: 6/01/2010 15:29

下星期一的會，未能抽身出席  ，希望在此提一些意見，盡一點綿力！

有logo反塱原，send相去俾意見，我都十分贊同和支持，但規劃署會否視我們各人的意見為單一意見呢？

我諗除了logo外，我們還需要加上一點的個人意見，同時，加上姓名，這樣相信被視為單一意見的機會減少，大家記住一定要用自已的email去send，無諗住post左係到就算 ，佢地一定會有formal的reply俾番你。

我頭先用了小小時間，諗左一堆字俾大家作為參考，希望各位記住做send的動作呀！

我強烈反對塱原濕地被劃為綜合發展及自然保育改善區，要求列為具特殊科學價值地點。

我強烈反對塱原濕地被劃為綜合發展及自然保育改善區，要求列為特別地區。

我強烈反對塱原濕地被劃為綜合發展及自然保育改善區，要求列為保育地帶。

我強烈反對塱原濕地被劃為綜合發展及自然保育改善區，要求列為自然保護區。

我強烈反對塱原濕地被劃為綜合發展及自然保育改善區，要求列為濕地保育區。

塱原九鐵往下走，綜合發展不要來。

淡水濕地在塱原，保留這裡永長存。

發展商人重金錢，何來保育在塱原。

塱原鳥類比米埔，獨特鳥種在此尋。

開闊田野剩塱原，起樓發展不可以。

古洞發展勢難阻，唯獨塱原可抵擋。

保育塱原政府責，豈可推與發展商。

漁署證塱原生態，規劃署視若無睹。

塱原保育見成效，規劃發展毀一切。

有機耕種有希望，塱原日後有出路。

塱原成永續典範，後世港人齊讚頌。

政府有責買農地，塱原濕地留後世。

耕種文化續消失，塱原成野外教室。

國際鳥區譽塱原，規劃無視佢價值。

塱原規劃核心區，細小可憐兼孤立。

塱原生態一整片，保育豈可一小片。

塱原週遭續發展，請留濕地緩衝區。

昔日塱原觀鳥行，此處不可成追憶。


我都整左個sample.... 張相係2001年影的...

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Author: HKBWS WY    Time: 6/01/2010 19:33

請緊記除了留言或貼相在這裏，更重要是遞交給有關部門，如下：

香港北角渣華道333號
北角政府合署16樓規劃署　
規劃研究組
傳真:2522 8524　　或
電郵:srpd@pland.gov.hk
Author: lchunfai    Time: 6/01/2010 19:46











護塱原,救自然

人鳥和諧·自然長存
Author: kyshum    Time: 6/01/2010 23:33

Support!





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Author: hwunfung    Time: 6/01/2010 23:44

Fully Support!!!!
Author: John Holmes    Time: 7/01/2010 10:20     Subject: Long Valley proposed re-zoning

This photo accompanied our submission to Planning Department this morning.

If we value Long Valley, and I'm sure we all do, let's all make our objections known to Planning Dept., at the Email address given above.

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Author: HKBWS Vicky    Time: 7/01/2010 12:45

懇請各位將相片發送到有關部門(srpd@pland.gov.hk)，並副本抄送到conservation@hkbws.org.hk 好讓我們有個記錄，以便日後作出適當的跟進行動。
電郵中請寫上閣下之姓名和反對的原因，這樣會減低被當作單一反對的機會。
謝謝!!
Author: butter    Time: 7/01/2010 14:03

already sent my email (with real name) to the Planning Dept to show my support re. conservation of Long Yuen!
w/o Long Yuen >

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Author: jacky@ocqq.com    Time: 7/01/2010 17:01



Author: thinfor    Time: 7/01/2010 19:42

Already sent mine too with CC to HKBWS.  Thanks.
Author: cwho    Time: 7/01/2010 21:28

Ask for help!Please tell me where to download the CDNCEA logo and how to stick into the photo.
Author: csimon    Time: 7/01/2010 22:22

Support.. ! Objection sent ...!

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Author: jaclau    Time: 7/01/2010 22:29

Author: kyshum    Time: 7/01/2010 22:41

Already sent mine also. Don't wait, action!
Author: puppymic    Time: 7/01/2010 23:32

Quote:
Ask for help!Please tell me where to download the CDNCEA logo and how to stick into the photo.
To get the logo, you may click the "zip" file in 2nd post.

stick into the photo: 用photoshop問左張相，再用photoshop開埋個logo，將個logo resize到適合大小之後，拉過幅相度就ok啦
Author: fkm    Time: 8/01/2010 03:15

Objection sent and copied...

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Author: dick    Time: 8/01/2010 20:20

push!
remember to attend the meeting next Monday
Author: kw223    Time: 8/01/2010 21:12

Author: CYLAM    Time: 8/01/2010 22:52

Support, objection sent.

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Author: fkm    Time: 8/01/2010 23:45

I notice the reply from the government is being copied to several persons at some arup.com, I subsequently found this site: http://www.arup.com/

Does that mean the firm is responsible for the Environmental Impact Assessment of Long Valley? Anything additional thing should be done?
Author: cwho    Time: 10/01/2010 00:04

所謂綜合發展保育, 祗不過是巧立明目, 創建灰色地帶, 將破壞塱原生態環境合法化, 所以堅決反對任何不利塱原生態保育的規劃!





Author: BWA    Time: 10/01/2010 23:30

Author: kken    Time: 11/01/2010 21:53





I told the proposal of CDNCEA to my kids who both are against of it.

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Author: 深藍-Owen    Time: 11/01/2010 23:27

Save Long Valley!!

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Author: VRII    Time: 12/01/2010 00:08

SUPPORT

Author: cwchan    Time: 12/01/2010 00:09

Save Long Valley.

Author: Late    Time: 12/01/2010 11:24

今日send 咗, 會不會太遲?

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Author: hooooon    Time: 12/01/2010 15:04

e-mail sent with the following photos.


Author: HKBWS WY    Time: 12/01/2010 16:25

Quote:
Original posted by Late at 12/01/2010 11:24
今日send 咗, 會不會太遲?
今晚12時前都可以.
Author: HKBWS WY    Time: 12/01/2010 17:42

以下是林超英先生向規劃署及土木工程拓展署遞交的意見書給各位鳥友參考。
Below is the letter from Mr Lam Chiu Ying to the Planning Department and Civil Engineering and Development Department for your reference.

Submission re NENT development_CY Lam.doc (39 KB)






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Author: pitarhk    Time: 12/01/2010 22:16

最後努力,好忙都要企出黎send相寫信!















Author: kmike    Time: 13/01/2010 01:11

More LV birds sent to PlanD and CEDD

Thanks to everyone who took the time to make a submission!
Also a huge thank you to James for designing the logo!

Cheers
Mike K

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Author: kmike    Time: 13/01/2010 01:12

Some more pix not yet included:
Author: isaac_chan    Time: 13/01/2010 20:49

Objection to Long Valley to be zoned as "Comprehensive Development and Nature Conservation Enhancement Area" (CDNCEA)
反對塱原濕地被劃為「綜合發展及自然保育改善區」











Author: John Holmes    Time: 13/01/2010 22:26     Subject: Black-faced Spoonbills seen feeding in Long Valley on Jan 13, 2010

9 Black-faced Spoonbills
Long Valley
January 13, 2010

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Author: wchiyin    Time: 16/01/2010 13:16

反對以中環價值作香港未來保育的方向

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