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Author: iherman Time: 3/03/2011 09:42 Subject: Hawfinch 鍚咀雀

Yuen Long
2-3-2011

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Author: cgeoff Time: 3/03/2011 11:44

Nice photos.

How close were you to the bird?

Geoff

Author: iherman Time: 3/03/2011 19:59

Geoff,
i take the photos around 5M to 8M.

Author: Stonechat Time: 3/03/2011 21:32

Herman, great find and very nice photos.

Author: tsheunglai Time: 3/03/2011 23:02

Dear all

While Hong Kong has a bird market and we must be cautious about birds' natural existence, we have also
to be cautious when we apply the yardstick of 'tameness'.

As regards logic, ex-captives and tameness are not necessarily twins of the same phenonmenon. Ex-captives may be at the same time looks tame and quite approachable, but the logic may not be equally
reversible, namely, wild birds may also be quite approachable and therefore tameness does not necessarily
imply ex-captivity.

The statistics and occurrences of Hawfinches are quite against G.C.'s approach as regards the species
in question.

I would turn down Hawfinches seen in Hong Kong as wild if they would not have been here as regards weather, their migratory history and recent records. Make more research if one's knowledge is found in want.

Other finches are winter vistiors. Why not Hawfinches? Could someone advise me about the "why not'?

Meanwhile I will enrich my own knowledge about finches in HK and Hawfinches in particular.
Palaeartically (no time to confirm spelling) researched if necessary.

S L Tai

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Author: Andiona Time: 3/03/2011 23:54

Well done herman.

Author: cgeoff Time: 4/03/2011 10:16

Assessments of whether a particular bird arrived naturally or with the assistance of man do not depend solely on tameness. Among the factors considered are:

Date of occurrence
Typical range of species
Rarity of species
Extent of migratory behaviour
Weather patterns
Habitat in which a bird occurs
Tameness or other behaviour
Plumage and bare part condition
Presence in trade of the species concerned
Previous records in relation to all the factors above

GeoffC

Author: iherman Time: 5/03/2011 15:07

Thank you all comments

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