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Author: dick Time: 26/03/2011 21:52 Subject: 快門線改造

買回來的快門線, 對我來說, 缺點有二:
1) 底板太闊
2) 底板末端太弱, 之前已經斷了兩個
所以今次希望把它換掉

快門線

底板

用4分(1/2英吋)的鋁條, 計算好距離後, 鑽兩個孔, 把快門線支柱裝回就ok了

把快門線及s95 universal adaptor一併安裝在s95之下

把快門線對準shutter

[ Last edited by dick at 26/03/2011 21:54 ]

Author: papago Time: 26/03/2011 22:20

剛好最近也在研究這個, 晚點跟貼,
(以前用木條跟五金店買的 L 型鐵片 DIY 的快門線座)

我覺得若是快門線方向能反過來, 應該會更好用(快門線就不用翹那麼高了)

除了看過日本鳥友 diy 過, 還沒看過量產品有過這樣的設計

以下為照片摘自 http://www.digisco.com/use_bbs/digisco.cgi

[ Last edited by papago at 27/03/2011 10:42 ]

Author: pitarhk Time: 26/03/2011 22:49

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Original posted by papago at 26/03/2011 22:20
剛好最近也在研究這個, 晚點跟貼,
我覺得若是快門線方向能反過來, 應該會更好用(快門線就不用翹那麼高了)
除了看過日本鳥友 diy 過, 還沒看過量產品有過這樣的設計

以下為照片摘自 http://www.di ...

很利害！不過我用這方法改造會較麻煩！原因我的DC需要調較前後來適應不同場合的雀鳥：
例如影林鳥、飛鳥或晚上出沒的鳥類，DC就需要推前，利用2X zoom，得到較廣闊焦距及較大光圈；
另外影水鳥，DC就需要退後，利用3.8x zoom，發揮最長焦距，但光圈會較細；
所以快門線改造有限制！(如果技術較好可以改造電子快門線！)

Author: pitarhk Time: 26/03/2011 22:57

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Original posted by dick at 26/03/2011 21:52
買回來的快門線, 對我來說, 缺點有二:
1) 底板太闊
2) 底板末端太弱, 之前已經斷了兩個
所以今次希望把它換掉

快門線

底板
http://images1. ...

Dick,我忍左鴨記線好耐....已經整到無可再整地步！
1.條線一買返黎就甩在兩粒膠，我就搵熱容膠造一粒出黎
2.條線黑色外皮時不時甩出黎，跟手拆開搵熱縮通再加索帶固定
3.同你一樣，塊板同支棍斷左，我鋸左斷左個面，再將支棍收落塊板條坑到
下次可能DIY條快門線...

Author: lwingkay Time: 27/03/2011 03:03

Re: 如果技術較好可以改造電子快門線！(If one is good at electrical engineering, one can convert the shutter to be released electrically via a cable.)

請問坊間有師傅做這個改動的嗎？可否告知他的聯絡資料？心目中想將Nikon CP8400的快門改勳作此用途。第一按對焦，第二按釋放。成事的話，一天都'光晒'！(I'm not sure if there are professionals who do this kind of conversion. Would be grateful if you could tell me the particulars for contacting them. My wish is to release the shutter of my Nikon CP8400 with a powered shutter release cable. The release should be such that the first press is for focusing and the second for shutter release.)

Pete

Author: papago Time: 27/03/2011 10:06

看到外國有真的有人從電子線路去改
http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?t=622537
我還是使用機械快門線的方式就可以了

我想 . pitarhk 兄拋出這個議題 , 表示 pitarhk 兄應該有能力去改

記得小時後玩遙控飛機有看過一些機件使用所謂 "搖臂" 機構
這可以拿來當成我轉向機械快門方向的機制
使用 "木條+搖臂" (一般人在家就可以 diy) ,就可槁定轉向機械快門方向的機制
不用像日本鳥友還要運用到 "金屬加工" 的方式

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Author: lmike Time: 27/03/2011 11:18

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Original posted by lwingkay at 27/03/2011 03:03
Re: 如果技術較好可以改造電子快門線！(If one is good at electrical engineering, one can convert the shutter to be released electrically via a cable.)

請問坊間有師傅做這個改動的嗎？可否告知他的聯絡資料？心 ...

多年前真的見過一 ching 這樣做過，不過改造以後，由於是死的原故，部 DC 會有一條電線連制飛出來，不能拔去！
换句話說，代價可能是犧牲一部 DC ........

至於那裡改造........印像中好似是旺角先達，不過已是多年前了，不甚肯定！
不過記得他還說過，如果那裡有維修 DC 服務的話，他們應該懂得如何改造！
希望幫到你們...........

Author: pitarhk Time: 27/03/2011 13:27

Quote:

Original posted by lwingkay at 27/03/2011 03:03
Re: 如果技術較好可以改造電子快門線！(If one is good at electrical engineering, one can convert the shutter to be released electrically via a cable.)

請問坊間有師傅做這個改動的嗎？可否告知他的聯絡資料？心 ...

單鏡反光機就試過把D70s內的快開按鈕抽3條線落直倒，由於體積較大，改造容易，相反DC零件較細小，自問無咁好技術改造。

Author: pitarhk Time: 27/03/2011 13:30

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Original posted by papago at 27/03/2011 10:06
看到外國有真的有人從電子線路去改
http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?t=622537
我還是使用機械快門線的方式就可以了
我想 . pitarhk 兄拋出這個議題 , 表示 pitarhk 兄應該有能力去改 35518 ...

噢，你相片中的零件不就是搖控車的零件？
有個想法，利用4個伺服器，控制上下、左右、對焦及按快門動作，聽起來很過癮，但實際製造還是很麻煩

Author: papago Time: 27/03/2011 14:41

遙控攝影雲台已有成品上市, 不用自己做 (才台幣 1 萬左右)
http://www.kphoto.com.tw/front/b ... &Category=59191

小弟利用遙控車的組件只是要做為機械快門線改變方向的機制

[ Last edited by papago at 27/03/2011 14:42 ]

Author: lwingkay Time: 27/03/2011 22:11

Reference is made to the link Papago provided in his previous thread which talks about a shutter conversion in A620. The following is a direct quot from kd7ost at http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?t=622537 about how the shutter in A620 operated after the alteration:
'If you just hit the shutter only, it will first focus, then shoot. No need to hit a focus function first. Try it on the ground and see. Just mash that button all the way and see what happens. It will focus first then shoot.'

I think this shutter operates in the same way as the one for the D70 in which Pitarhk had made a change. His description of the soldering procedure is as follows:單鏡反光機就試過把D70s內的快開按鈕抽3條線落直倒. His comment that '由於體積較大，改造容易，相反DC零件較細小，自問無咁好技術改造' tallies with the one mentioned by Gjestico in Papago's link.

In both cases, shutter release still has to be dependent on a direct press on the shutter button. I think a cable hanging out from the circuit for shutter release is what digiscopers are expecting to get with a view to bringing vibration from shutter release to the minimal.

Personally, I think a two-phase shutter release is much better than a single-phase one. By 'two-phase', I refer to the phase of focusing and the phase of shutter release. It is obvious that the altered shutters by kd7ost and Pitarhk belong to the singe-phase one.

Thanks Papago, Pitarhk and LMike for the detailed information.

[ Last edited by lwingkay at 27/03/2011 22:22 ]

Author: lwingkay Time: 27/03/2011 22:19

Further to my previous thread, I have a suggestion to make and it is to use the USB as the hub for doing a 2-phase shutter release.

I think this hub is useless in the digital camera as we all depend on a card reader to transfer images to the computer. If some sort of an electrical connection can be made there, probably, the hub can serve as the connection point for a powered shutter release cable.

In fact, in my Ricoh GXR, the hub is the point for such a powered shutter release cable to be connected.

I am an idiot about electrical circuits and soldering. Hope guys out here would look into this possibility and enlighten us with their expertise.

Pete

Author: cwchan Time: 29/03/2011 21:16

我喜愛簡單的快門繩座，取其可靠，輕便。
至於機械式快門繩，還是Nikon 的12吋長那款，最為耐用和順滑。

Author: dick Time: 29/03/2011 22:04

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Original posted by cwchan at 29/03/2011 21:16
我喜愛簡單的快門繩座，取其可靠，輕便。
至於機械式快門繩，還是Nikon 的12吋長那款，最為耐用和順滑。

...

實驗証明, 無法以人手屈鋁條.....

Author: pitarhk Time: 30/03/2011 01:35

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Original posted by dick at 29/03/2011 22:04

實驗証明, 無法以人手屈鋁條.....

可以屈，不過視乎厚度：
分半以下鋁條可以搵手屈....但工件太細要搵大力鉗輔助
2分或以上既鋁條就難搵手屈....要搵手屈都唔係問題,搵磨機輕輕"hi"條坑就可以搵手屈

Author: lmike Time: 30/03/2011 22:08

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Original posted by dick at 29/03/2011 22:04

實驗証明, 無法以人手屈鋁條.....

我用 cutter 在鋁條上面一兩下，然後放在木枱 or 木凳上面借力，一屈就掂...........

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