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Author: fneil    Time: 17/09/2011 07:55     Subject: Confusing waders at NSW

This bird was sighted at NSW this week and is causing lots of confusion overseas as to it's id.  I'm sure our local birders can come up with an id.
Neil

Canon G12 and Kowa lens scope Prominar and Kowa 25x LER eyepiece and Swarovski UCA adapter

NSW,
Hong Kong,
China
14/09/11

http://www.flickr.com/photos/7892550@N03/6153864657/

[ Last edited by fneil at 17/09/2011 08:04 ]
Author: fneil    Time: 17/09/2011 08:07

I'll try and post the photo again , otherwise try the link to Flickr.
No , still says file is too big and it's only 577x420
Neil
Author: ddavid    Time: 17/09/2011 09:27

Juvenile Curlew Sandpiper??

David
Author: fneil    Time: 18/09/2011 08:08

This should show the photo.


unknown greenshanks G12 kw25x IMG_3797.jpg by neilfif11
Author: John Holmes    Time: 18/09/2011 08:58     Subject: "Unknown Greenshanks"

Hi Neil,

The four Greenshank all look like Common Greenshank to me.  

And I agree with David D that the foreground bird could be a Curlew Sandpiper.

John
Author: tbob    Time: 18/09/2011 21:18

It was suggested that this bird could possibly be a Cox's Sandpiper

This is a link to video of the bird

http://vimeo.com/29027482

( Sorry there are several other shots before the related shot)
Author: ddavid    Time: 18/09/2011 22:40

Interesting. "Cox's Sandpiper" was first noted in Australia in the early 1980s and was later proved to be a hybrid between male Pectoral Sandpiper and female Curlew Sandpiper.

Quite what a juv "Cox's Sandpiper" looks like c.f. a juv Curlew Sandpiper is something I'm not sure about. But I would be interested to know why this is not just a juv Curlew Sandpiper.

David
Author: fneil    Time: 19/09/2011 10:09

David,
      That's the way I'm leaning too, but there are experienced birds on other groups ( including Hong Kong ) suggesting Sharpie juvenile. And they are definite.
Neil
Author: John Holmes    Time: 19/09/2011 10:34     Subject: Wader at NSW

Bob, nice video !  Shows more features than the still photo.

Neil, After referring to plate 82 of my 1987 edition of "Shorebirds" I'd agree that the "capped" appearance and bright supercilium are good features for Sharp-tailed Sandpiper, but this bird does seem to have quite a long, decurved bill.

On the other hand, your  commenters overseas HERE http://www.birdforum.net/showthread.php?t=211176 seem to be coming round to Curlew Sandpiper !
Author: lpaul    Time: 19/09/2011 10:52

With all due respect to the comments on Birdforum, this is pretty obviously a juvenile Curlew Sandpiper. I don't really understand what the problem is!
Author: ddavid    Time: 19/09/2011 10:53

My understanding is that Sharp-tailed Sand would have a shorter bill, a rufous crown and rufous fringes on at least some of the upperpart feathers.

david
Author: tbob    Time: 19/09/2011 12:59

Thanks Paul, David and John for confirming the ID of the bird

300% enlargement of a new video clip

http://www.flickr.com/photos/jingbar/6161213499/

Bob
Author: fneil    Time: 19/09/2011 13:38

Thanks Guys.  I'm happy with Curlew Sand now too although the head pattern doesn't quite look right.
Unusually too he was on his own with Greenshanks and Marshies.
Neil
Author: lpaul    Time: 19/09/2011 14:15

The head pattern looks typical in the video, but dark in the stills.




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