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Author: lyatming Time: 7/08/2013 00:18 Subject: Birding in Hungary and Vienna

七月份去了匈牙利和維地納旅行。主要係去匈牙利，目的係睇貓頭鷹同啄木鳥。但，當地鳥導話七月不是適合時間。因為繁殖季節已過，但遷徒季節未開始，所以只能見到一些當地的普通品種。

今次去，有自己去市區的公園及近郊的樹林，有揾鳥導帶入保護區及去了一些當地一些BIRD HIDE

部份雀名可能有錯, 請指正

維也納 Vienna

鷦鷯 Wren

鴛鴦 Mandarin Duck

蒼鷺 Grey Heron

匈牙利 Hungary

普通鳾 Eurasian Nuthatch

歐亞鴝 Eurasian Robin

大山雀 Great Tit

白鸛 White Stock

松鴉 Eurasian Jay

中斑啄木鳥 Middle Spotted Woodpecker

烏鶇 Common Black bird

錫咀雀 Hawfinch

灰斑鳩 Eurasian Collared Dove

灰頭林鴿 Woodpigeon

佛法僧 Eurasian Roller

雀鷹 Eurasian Sparrowhawk

山斑鳩 European Turtle Dove

紅脚隼 Red-footed Falcon

Male

Female

烏鶇 Comon Blackbird

歌鶇 Song Thrush

環頸雉 Eurasian Pheasant

斑鶲 Spotted Flycatcher

紅胸姬鶲 Red-brested Flycatcher

黍鵐 Corn Bunting

紫鷺　Purple Heron

文須雀　Bearded Reedling

灰雁　Greylag Goose

Pygmy Cormarant黑頸鸕鷀

小灰伯勞　Lesser Grey Shrike

紅背伯勞 Red-backed Shrike

紅隼 Kestrel

短趾旋木雀Short-toed Treecreeper

??蜂虎 Eurasian Bee-eater

普通鵟 Common Buzzard

紫翅椋鳥 Common Starling

鳳頭百靈 Creasted Lark

金翅雀 Greenfinch

斑鶲 Spotted Flycatcher

叽喳柳鶯 Chiffchaft

燕雀 Chaffinch

草原石鵖 Whinchat

黑喉石鵖 Stonechat

Author: unclekin Time: 7/08/2013 01:33

thank you for sharing, it's beautiful.

Author: badesc Time: 7/08/2013 14:33

Great set of pictures! I was in Hungary in July too. Good country for birding, but May should be even better.

You asked for corrections:

Red-footed Falcon is really another species than Amur Falcon. Amur Falcon is a very rare vagrant to Hungary (see http://www.rarebirds.hu/species.php?id=51).

The Red-breasted Flycatcher is a juvenile Eurasian Robin.

To the right of the Corn Bunting is a Tree Sparrow, but I guess you've noticed that.

The Skylark looks like a Crested Lark to me. The surroundings fit this species better than Skylark, which prefers a grassier habitat. It is a juvenile (note the white fringes on the wing) and a juvenile Skylark does not have such a long 'crest' (long feathers on the head). The bill is rather long for a Skylark, but fits a Crested Lark. And Skylarks also would show a pronouncing primary-projection. Crested Lark has very long tertials (as in the picture) and primaries are generally not visible.

Bart

Author: ajohn Time: 7/08/2013 16:34

Also your Red Turtle Doves should be Eurasian Collared Doves, and the first picture labelled as a Song Thrush is actually a juvenile Common Blackbird.

Nice photos, and lots of pictures of juvenile birds included.

Author: lyatming Time: 7/08/2013 19:03

Thank for ajohn and Bart.
As mentioned by the guide, the best season for birding is May in Hungary.
By the calls, it would be easy to find owls and woodpeckers.

By the way, Bart,
the red-breasted flycatcher was found by a bird guide and me.
We post the photo in a birds forum at Hungary.
http://birding.hu/megfigyeles/adatlap/628130

There is no special comments about the bird.

So, would you mind to explain your opinions about the identification for the bird?

[ Last edited by lyatming at 8/08/2013 09:57 ]

Author: Lionel_Wong Time: 7/08/2013 22:56

啲相片非常之美麗

Author: iherman Time: 8/08/2013 00:09

Great birding trip

Author: badesc Time: 8/08/2013 04:25

Quote:

Original posted by lyatming at 7/08/2013 19:03
Thank for ajohn and Bart.
As mentioned by the guide, the best season for birding is May in Hungary.
By the calls, it would be easy to find owls and woodpeckers.

By the way, Bart,
the red-breasted fly ...

Sure.

I must start by saying that a single picture can be different from a bird in motion and secondly that I can make a mistake.

But I feel your bird looks like a juvenile Robin in any way. I cannot find any character that does not match this species.

The character that I feel points most against Red-breasted Fly is that this bird clearly lacks the long whitish base on the outer tail feathers. The white that can be seen, looks like that of the undertail-coverts to me and the outer tail feathers lack any white.

Even with a view slightly from below, and in a good shot like yours, the white on the outer tail feathers should be visible, as it is in these examples (although these birds have a different age):

http://tinyurl.com/los4ayg

http://tinyurl.com/k9lgfxn

http://tinyurl.com/lw79whz

http://tinyurl.com/kktdnyu

When I look at you picture at the other website (birding.hu), the tail is not as sharp as in the one you posted here and might give the impression - but just the impression - that the outer tail feathers are white.

So far, I have not been able to find a picture of a juvenile Red-breasted Fly taken in summer. Most are adults or first-winters that turn-up as a vagrant in Western-Europe. Expect this one:

http://tinyurl.com/mpmee7w

Only the facial pattern can be judged and this is different from a juvenile Robin, because the head is brown and the throat is buffish, being more uniform in Robin. See for example the Robin on this page (scroll down a bit) http://tinyurl.com/lp5aho2 or this one http://tinyurl.com/jvhpqlt.

So to me, your bird is a Robin. I would be very interested to hear arguments that exclude this species and point to Red-breasted Flycatcher, however. But errors with this species seem to appear regularly.

[ Last edited by badesc at 8/08/2013 04:49 ]

Author: HKBWS Vicky Time: 8/08/2013 09:34

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Author: lyatming Time: 8/08/2013 09:53

Thx, Bart,
In order to have more discussion, I have two more photos for the bird.
Here they are,

Honestly, I have no bias for whether it is a red-breasted flycatcher or a robin. I just want to have more details in discussion.

Author: badesc Time: 8/08/2013 14:36

Quote:

Original posted by lyatming at 8/08/2013 09:53
Thx, Bart,
In order to have more discussion, I have two more photos for the bird.
Here they are,
http://i141.photobucket.com/albu ... tria/IMG_8994_2_zps ...

Ha, more photo's.

My saying that a single picture can be different from a bird in motion (meaning that it can show some characters very well but others not or wrongly so) and that I can make a mistake both seems true…

The first picture, taken from behind the bird, reveals that it does have the long white base to the outer tail feathers. As pointed out yesterday, that does strongly support Red-breasted Flycatcher at any age.

Secondly, the facial pattern does show the contrast between a browning face and a buffish throat.

So, I must admit that you and your guide have been right. Photo's can be misleading.

Bart

Author: Andy-li Time: 22/08/2013 01:52

Very nice birding trip...

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