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Author: sgeoff    Time: 3/06/2007 10:39     Subject: New Archive?

Now that the season has quietened down, and the number of interesting migrants has dwindled, I would like the raise the possibility of creating an archive of the photos submitted.  This could be an index of the full Hong Kong list, with a full list of species and icons to click for photos (something like the one on Birdforum which has the more ambitious world list).  We are lucky in Hong Kong to have such talented photographers who make their work available.  Some of the photos are tremendous aids to identification, at least as good as some of the field guide samples, and having them in an archive would be easier to access that the current system.  

It could also include an icon for sound recordings - that might also stimulate more interest in audio recording and making sound files available, which is a tremendous help in identification.  

So for example, someone who had seen a suspected emerald dove and would like to check out diagnostic features could click on this species name and get instant access to any photos and recordings currently on the site.

I really don’t know the technical details of how this might work or how much effort it would involve, but I'm just putting it forward as a proposal for discussion.
Author: 深藍-Owen    Time: 3/06/2007 11:47

Geoff, I'm planning to do something like this in the forum :

On the first page (first message) u got a list of all (most) of the Hong Kong bird species with link:


Landbirds 陸鳥
        Doves 鳩
        Bee-eaters 蜂虎,
        Hoopoes 戴勝
        Pipits 鷚
        Minivets 山椒鳥
        Thrushes 鶇        <----
        Warblers 鶯
        Flycatchers 鶲
        Tits 山雀
        Sunbirds 花蜜鳥
        Shrikes 伯勞
        Crows 鴉
        Buntings 鵐

Shore Birds
       ........
       ........
       ........
etc.



After click will lead u to 2nd page (2nd message) with the following list plus a thumnail attached next to:



THRUSH

Blue Rock Thrush 藍磯鶇                                         (thumnail photo)
Brown-headed Thrush 赤腹鶇
Chestnut-bellied Rock Thrush 栗腹磯鶇 (female)        (thumnail photo)
Chinese Song Thrush 寶興歌鶇                                 (thumnail photo)
Common Blackbird 烏鶇
Dusky Thrush 斑鶇
Eyebrowed Thrush 白眉鶇                                         (thumnail photo)
Grey-backed Thrush 灰背鶇
Japanese Thrush 烏灰鶇
Orange-headed Thrush 橙頭地鶇
Pale Thrush 白腹鶇
Scaly Thrush 虎斑地鶇
Violet Whistling Thrush 紫嘯鶇




Click on the selected bird will lead u to indiviual bird page (message) with a big photo and many existing photo link in forum :



BIG Photo
link1
link2
link3
link4



With this structure, 3 to 4 clicks u should goto the bird you want.

The advantage of this index is volunteer can work on their own assign species page alone.  Also its much easier for forum admin assign users rights to volunteer that we just need to create a hidden forum and only volunteer allowed to access and post/edit   message inside. After 50% of the index finised we can release to public and may still keep updated the rest after released.

With 400+ birds in HK and hundered and thousand of message in both Old and New HKBWS fourm, its not a small project volunteer require as much as we can and it is the most easiest way to allocate work load to them.  The more people the faster to get it done and no programming coding knowledge required as long as u know how to post message to forum you should able to handle it.

IT Group
Owen
Author: sgeoff    Time: 3/06/2007 20:02

Great!  Sounds good.  Maybe I'll be able to lend a hand too.
Author: cgeoff    Time: 10/06/2007 11:36

Owen,

This project sounds really great, and would be very useful indeed. Good luck with the work.

Please, however, make sure that the date of each photo is provided. This is very important.

Geoff
Author: 深藍-Owen    Time: 10/06/2007 13:05

Thanks all for your support,

The most important thing is the setting up of the first page, we would like your input if you got idea how to categorize those Birds for HKG in first page.  Once the first page done everything will be easy.

Owen
Author: mbill    Time: 10/06/2007 13:10

Thanks for all volunteers
Author: wgeoff    Time: 10/06/2007 14:16

Why not use the structure already developed for Orientalbirdimages.com?

It takes between 2 and 4 clicks to reach an individual species. All Hong Kong species are covered and most people are already familiar with the system.
Author: 深藍-Owen    Time: 10/06/2007 15:45

Thanks all for your support, please check the prototype of the Bird Index first page as followed :
ANSERIFORMES Ducks, geese, swans
APODIFORMES Swifts, needletails, treeswifts
BUCEROTIFORMES Hornbills
CICONIIFORMES Storks, raptors, seabirds, shorebirds, sandgrouse
COLUMBIFORMES Pigeons, doves
CORACIIFORMES Kingfishers, bee-eaters, rollers
CRACIIFORMES Scrubfowl, maleo
CUCULIFORMES Cuckoos, malkohas, coucals
GALLIFORMES Pheasants, partridges, francolins, grouse, fowl, quails
GRUIFORMES Cranes, bustards, finfoots, rails, crakes, gallinules
PICIFORMES Woodpeckers, wrynecks, barbets, honeyguides
PSITTACIFORMES Parrots, parakeets, cockatoos, lorikeets etc.
STRIGIFORMES Owls, frogmouths, nightjars
STRUTHIONIFORMES Cassowaries
TROCHILIFORMES Hummingbirds
TROGONIFORMES Trogons
TURNICIFORMES Buttonquails
UPUPIFORMES Hoopoes
PASSERIFORMES All perching birds
Acrocephalinae Tesias, stubtails, warblers, tailorbirds & allies
Aegithalidae Long-tailed tits
Aegithininae Ioras
Alaudidae Larks
Artamidae Woodswallows
Bombycillidae Waxwings
Carduelini Finches, siskins, serins, redpolls, crossbills, grosbeaks & allies
Certhiidae
Certhiinae
Certhiini Treecreepers
Cinclidae Dippers
Cinclosomatinae Rail-babblers & allies
Cisticolidae Cisticolas, prinias, scrub warblers & allies
Corvidae
Corvinae
Corvini Jays, magpies, treepies, ground-jays, groundpecker, nutcrackers, choughs, jackdaws, crows, rook & ravens
Dicaeini Flowerpeckers & mistletoebird
Dicrurinae
Dicrurini Drongos
Emberizinae
Emberizini Buntings & allies
Estrildinae Estrildine finches - avadavats, parrotfinches, silverbill, munias, sparrows
Eurylaimidae Broadbills
Fringillidae
Fringillinae
Fringillini Chaffinches & brambling
Garrulacinae Laughingthrushes, liocichlas & hwamei
Hirundinidae
Hirundininae Martins & swallows
Hypocoliidae Hypocolius
Icterini American orioles
Irenidae Fairy bluebirds & leafbirds
Laniidae Shrikes
Malaconotinae
Megalurinae Grassbirds
Meliphagidae Myzomelas, honeyeaters, friarbirds & myzas
Monarchini Monarchs, paradise-flycatchers & magpie-lark
Motacillinae Wagtails & pipits
Muscicapidae
Muscicapinae
Muscicapini Old World flycatchers & niltavas
Nectariniidae
Nectariniinae
Nectariniini Sunbirds & spiderhunters
Oriolini Orioles, figbirds, cuckooshrikes, trillers, minivets & flycatcher-shrikes
Pachycephalinae Whistlers & shrike-thrushes
Paradisaeini Birds of paradise
Pardalotidae Gerygones and allies
Paridae Typical tits, Sultan Tit, Groundpecker, Yellow-browed Tit
Parulini American wood-warblers
Passeridae Sparrows, petronias & snowfinches
Petroicidae Australian robins - flyrobin
Pittidae Pittas
Pityriasidae Bristlehead
Ploceinae Weavers & fodies
Prunellinae Accentors
Pseudochelidoninae River martins
Pycnonotidae Asian bulbuls, finchbills & malia
Regulidae Kinglets (crests)
Remizinae Penduline tits
Rhipidurini Fantails
Salpornithini Creepers
Saxicolini Robins, nightingales, chats, shamas, redstarts, grandala, forktails, cochoas & wheatears
Sittidae
Sittinae Nuthatches
Sturnidae
Sturnini Starlings & mynas
Sylviidae
Sylviinae
Sylviini Sylvia warblers (incl. whitethroats)
Tichodrominae Wallcreepers
Timaliini Babblers, babaxes, mesia, leiothrix, cutia, barwings,
minlas, fulvettas, crociases, sibias, yuhinas, myzornis, parrotbills & rhabdornises
Troglodytinae Wrens
Turdinae Thrushes, blackbirds & shortwings
Vangini Philentomas & woodshrikes
Zosteropidae White-eyes, black-eye & ibon
Author: wgeoff    Time: 10/06/2007 18:34

Owen

I think this is the Orientalbirdimages structure.

Is your gallery meant to be Hong Kong species only? If so, you can eliminate some of the species in the structure.

If East Asia/Oriental species, then the list is OK.

If World species, then it will not be complete (but that will make the gallery too big).



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