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[China] Hubei 湖北 9-2012 (2)

the Brown Shrikes looks like Long-tailed Shrike. The Brown-breasted Flycatcher looks like a Ferruginous Flycatcher, quite far north I think for this species.

All the best,

Jonathan

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Paul,
I think your bird has too long wing to be a Brown-breasted Flycatcher, and is very rufous on the underparts especially on the undertail coverts where BB Fly should be of white. I've mystaken about the range of Ferruginous Fly, and i agree it is nothing unusual. Ferruginous Fly has pinkish legs as well.

For the Shrike, rather than the tail color, I would say that the grey mantle is much more distinctive for Long-tailed, even comparing with a male lucionensis,same for the rufous on the underparts, should be peach color in Lucionensis,  as well as the tail length, really too long for a Brown Shrike. The juvenil shows too much black in front of the eye to be a Brown Shrike.

Jonathan

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I expect Brown-breasted to show much more yellow on the lower mandible especially to the tip of it, and a much more longer bill.
here a pic showing well Ferruginous Fly lower mandible :
http://orientalbirdimages.org/se ... _ID=&pagesize=1
here one showing BB Fly:
http://orientalbirdimages.org/se ... _ID=&pagesize=1

And again look at the proportion of tail left after the wing tip in Ferruginous compare to Brown-breasted, this is a very obvious feature from this angle, you even can use the undertail covert as a good reference for the wing tip position. And again the undertail covert should be of the same color of the belly (pale) and contrast with the flank in BB Fly, where in your bird they are clearly of the same rufous color than on the flank and this is also a good way to separate this two species from this angle I think.
And don't rely on what is mention on the reserve list, this is often not very accurate depending on the coverage of the reserve.
I can't do anymore.
Nice Brown shrike picture.

All the best,

Jonathan

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