My gut feeling is the bird perched is Grey-faced Buzzard but the bird John photographed is a Crested Goshawk. With regard to John's bird it looks pretty much like a Crested Goshawk except for the fact it seems to have 5 rather than the expected 6 "fingers". But it would seem that its shape is bit "atypical" to say the least for Grey-faced Buzzard but perfect for Crested Goshawk.
[ Last edited by brendank at 18/10/2010 14:13 ]