tmichael

Pretty classic juv Pied, isn't it?

Just wondering when seen?

tmichael

re query on juv Pied face pattern, I'm no expert really, but amongst European/Asian harriers Pied seems to me NOT to be one likely to have a strong face pattern in this plumage, in fact the opposite, but there seems to be a lot of variation in this feature as others.

Also, thanks for date information.

tmichael

This, and other birds photographed this autumn, have shown I need to look back at harrier id afresh.

Thanks for the point re iris colour.