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[Ducks] 黑海番鴨 Black Scoter Female ?

And I think you are right, Hendrix. In fact I know you are, because of the flight shots.

Just for the record I didn't see it in flight or flapping its wings - in which case alarm bells would certainly have rung - and juv Red-crested Pochard has an all-dark bill like this bird, though a different shape.

Also as Mullarney et al (Collins Bird Guide) put it juv/female R-c Pochard is "like a large pale Common [Black]  Scoter". And I did say to another observer the bill shape and long, 'stiff' tail looked odd.

Oh well, it was only a first for HK which I misidentified!

Mike Turnbull.

PS Mullarney et al also suggest separating them on the basis of habitat!

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Thanks for this very illuminating note John.

Next time I find one I'll know exactly what I'm looking for, once I've eliminated one or two other merely remotely similar species!

Mike Turnbull

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