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Are They Red-Throated Pipit?

Are They Red-Throated Pipit?

I guass the first one is. The second one could be an Olive-Backed Pipit!
But what are the clues to identify Pipits?

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Thank you very much I have some insight to separate a Red-Thorated and a Pechora

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