fatchun

In Hong Kong Zoological and Botanical Gardens
05-11-2009

The size of it is a bit smaller than spotted dove and slimmer.
The beak was black and pointed.
It was relative grey in color.
I saw a dark color after the eye.

When I first saw it, I thought it was a large cuckoo shrike..
But the beak was relatively pointed and I saw that it's eye was dark(not like the red eyes in book).
However, I actually could see the darker face of it.
Can anyone help to ID it?











THANK YOU!~~

[ Last edited by fatchun at 5/11/2009 22:45 ]

thinfor

I could see some brown or grey color in the underpart.  From the appearance and the size you have mentioned, could it be a Grey Treepie?   But the bill doesn't fit...Or could it be a black-winged cuckooshrike (but the size should be much smaller than a common spotted dove...)

fatchun

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Original posted by thinfor at 5/11/2009 20:05
I could see some brown or grey color in the underpart.  From the appearance and the size you have mentioned, could it be a Grey Treepie?   But the bill doesn't fit...Or could it be a black-w ...

I think it could not be a  black-winged cuckooshrike  because the under part of the tail do not have white spots
And the color may not so "real" as I have adjusted the light=_="""...Sorry for the poor photos
Actually I saw dark grey color

[ Last edited by fatchun at 5/11/2009 20:20 ]

lchunfai

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Original posted by fatchun at 5/11/2009 20:19



I think it could not be a  black-winged cuckooshrike  because the under part of the tail do not have white spots
And the color may not so "real" as I have adjusted the light=_="""... ...

May it be a starling? 。。。。 White shouldered??
But a White shouldered starling is much smaller than a spotted dove

kkoel

I think it's a Plaintive Cuckoo. There is a hint of grey head and orange breast in the first few photos, and the bill and tail shape both fit. =)

By the way, you won't see the beautiful red eyes of the Cuckoo-Shrike unless it faces you, is really close, and is in very good light.

[ Last edited by kkoel at 5/11/2009 21:52 ]

HFCheung

Blackbird?  The head and fact seem to be brown, and the throat is paler with streaks.

fatchun

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Original posted by kkoel at 5/11/2009 21:51
I think it's a Plaintive Cuckoo. There is a hint of grey head and orange breast in the first few photos, and the bill and tail shape both fit. =)

By the way, you won't see the beautiful red eyes of t ...

I think the Plaintive Cuckoo is a little bit smaller than this bird
and the tail of it do not have streak
also, I think it is grey in color for the whole bird when I use binocular to see
But there may be many variation...

OMG,I think my photos are so poor for ID ....
as I take the photo through binocular and there was a strong light at the back.....


Thanks All

[ Last edited by fatchun at 5/11/2009 23:40 ]

fatchun

Sorry for all, I try my best to adjust the photos again! Pleas waiting for me ...Thank you..

thinfor

Koel, I have thought of plaintive cuckoo too but the size was a bit too small.  Disregard of the size, I think it's most likely a plaintive cuckoo.

fatchun

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Original posted by thinfor at 5/11/2009 23:40
Koel, I have thought of plaintive cuckoo too but the size was a bit too small.  Disregard of the size, I think it's most likely a plaintive cuckoo.

Is the streak of plaintive cuckoo's tail not always be seen?
It is because I haven't see the streak of the tail, so I reject the chance of plaintive cuckoo today..


Thank you

[ Last edited by fatchun at 5/11/2009 23:51 ]

fatchun

wll it be a drongo cockoo?

kkoel

My wrong, actually I think Plaintive would show a much shorter bill than this, and the tail should be graduated, not square-tipped. I should have realized that colors are more tricky than the shape..XD

I think I'll go with Fai Gor on this one - Blackbird - esp. considering the photo of bird with fine throat streaks! The greyness of the bird may be due to back-lighting. I admit I haven't seen such a light individual on photo, but some Blackbirds are simply not black, so any alteration in viewing conditions may give different impressions.

(Don't think it can be Drongo Cuckoo - it is black and the tail is more triangular)



[ Last edited by kkoel at 6/11/2009 01:14 ]

lmichael

I think that the reason why there is so much discussion on this bird is that it is not a native species; i.e. probably an escaped cagebird. I am not sure what it is but structure, tail shape and bill size and shape suggests one of the larger honeyeaters to me. Location is a likely one for an escape. If you can get any more photos I would be happy to comment but I don't think that ID can be confirmed with these.

Mike Leven

fatchun

Thank you for discussion~ I think it is quite strange to me..
And I think I need to go around the birdcages to see wheather any bird look similar to this~


( Sorry for guessing this was drongo cuckoo~ )