HKBWS BBS 香 港 觀 鳥 會 新 聞 組    Discussion Area 討論區    Conservation 自然保育 (Moderators: Webcreeper, BBS Moderators)    Wishing they were Pelicans! « Previous topic | Next topic » Pages: 1  Reply Send Topic Print    Author  Topic: Wishing they were Pelicans!  (Read 2019 times) Owlet-nightjar BBS Member BBS God Hoo-o...chweep!     Posts: 141 Wishing they were Pelicans! « on: May 22nd, 2003, 10:34pm » Quote Modify The following records have been reported to AFCD-Senior Wetland and Conversation Officer and cc HK Police Force.   Mar 30, 03 at around 10:00  (high tide 1.9m)     8 mudskippers collectors were seen (with photos taken). May 1, 03 at around 14:00 (high tide 13:00 2.3m) 2 mudskippers collectors were seen. May 13, 03 at 07:35 (high tide 08:36 2m)   5 mudskippers collectors were seen (with photos taken). May 21, 03 at 08:40 (high tide 13:00 2.5m)   6 mudskippers collectors were seen (with photos taken). May 22, 03 at 08:55 (high tide 14:02 2.3m)   5 mudskippers collectors were seen (with photos taken). May 23, 03 at 09:20 (high tide 15:30 2.1m)   7 mudskippers collectors were seen (with photos taken).     Mar 30, 2003   May 13, 2003 « Last Edit: May 23rd, 2003, 11:27pm by Owlet-nightjar » Logged Hoo-o.....Hoo-0 鳥友Ａ(BWA) Committee Member BBS God I love Nature!     Gender: Posts: 308 Re: Wishing they were Pelicans! « Reply #1 on: May 22nd, 2003, 11:55pm » Quote Modify To give us some idea about how serious the problem is, &nbsp;could you tell us how often did you visit the broadwalk at Mai Po in May?   Did you find these oversized waders (or raiders) every time you went there? &nbsp;4 times in 22 days is already too much! « Last Edit: May 23rd, 2003, 12:08am by 鳥友Ａ(BWA) » Logged Owlet-nightjar BBS Member BBS God Hoo-o...chweep!     Posts: 141 Re: Wishing they were Pelicans! « Reply #2 on: May 23rd, 2003, 11:25pm » Quote Modify You are right, they are oversized waders, as they follow the tides.   The reason for seeing them in the Ramsar site this month (or any month),   especially the past few days.  It because the tides have been very high.   They are out there everyday, it is their workplace.     ------------------------------------------------------   Without a systemic assessment about their activities,   I shouldn't have jumped into a conclusion about in what tide situations they are on the mudflat.  There are many factors to   consider concerning their activities in the Ramsar site.     The reason I made the original posting was to record their presence   and to request the authorities to try to do something about it.   Now that most of the migrants have gone, the AFCD and/or the   Police don't need to worry so much about causing further   disturbances to the birds if and when they try to catch the   mudskipper collectors.    Upto May 23, 2003, 5 out 6 times visit of Boardwalk.     « Last Edit: May 24th, 2003, 7:42am by Owlet-nightjar » Logged Hoo-o.....Hoo-0 鳥友Ａ(BWA) Committee Member BBS God I love Nature!     Gender: Posts: 308 Re: Wishing they were Pelicans! « Reply #3 on: May 24th, 2003, 10:57am » Quote Modify Thanks Owlet-nightjar!   If the AFCD / Police / WWF accept that this is normal activity, perhaps WWF should update the field guides posted at the bird hides. They should include Mudskipper Collector (Homo exactor) as a resident wader in Mai Po.   Keep posting reports and photos here - they will serve as useful field notes!     « Last Edit: May 24th, 2003, 11:02am by 鳥友Ａ(BWA) » Logged Owlet-nightjar BBS Member BBS God Hoo-o...chweep!     Posts: 141 Reply from AFCD « Reply #4 on: May 26th, 2003, 10:35pm » Quote Modify Here is a reply message from AFCD, contents are self-explanatory.   The beginning of the reply message From: cl_wong@afcd.gov.hk Date: Sat, 24 May 2003 13:07:16 +0800 To: <xxxxx@netvigator.com> Cc: xxxx@afcd.gov.hk,   "HKBWS Mr Mike Kilburn, Conservation Committee Chairman" <xxxxxx@hkstar.com>,   dvc lmcdiv <xxxxx-xxxxx@police.gov.hk>......   Subject: &nbsp;Disturbances of Ramsar Wetland by Mudskippers collectors.   Dear xxx,      Thank you for your email to Mr. JK Chan who asked me to give you a reply. As I have told the Mai Po Management and Planning Committee held on 12/5/03 at WWF (Mr. Mike Kilburn, vice Chairman of HKBWS was in the meeting) that this Department takes a very serious view on &nbsp;cases of illegal cross border fishermen working on mudflat at Deep Bay within the Hong Kong boundary. I also told the committee that our Nature Wardens had seized over 3600m of fishnet and over 700 bamboo traps since the Easter Holiday and would continue to remove all illegal traps on the mudflat.      In view of their increasing working frequency on mudflat, we have urgently set up new arrangements as follows :   1. A "daily patrol team" at the mudflat has been formed to protect the listed wild animals in Schedule under the "Wild Animals Protection Ordinance" (WAPO) and to check illegal entry to the Nature Reserve Restricted Area.   2. As they are all illegal cross border people from Shenzhen, we will report every sighting of these people to the Lok Ma Chau Police and the Marine Police and request the Police to take action against such illegal entry to Hong Kong, which is a Security issue.   3. Setting up connections with officials at Shenzhen Futien Nature Reserve and requesting the Shenzhen authority to take a serious view on such illegal cross border activities.    I would appreciate if you would forward your record of sighting of cross border fishermen at Mai Po Mudflat to me so that prompt enforcement action can be taken. Basically, as a part of our duty, our Nature Wardens report and keep records of sighting of illegal cross border fishermen, too. You may also wish to know that only the Restricted Area scheduled under the Wild Animals Protection Ordinance stops any person (without a permit) from entering but not the whole Ramsar Site.     ........In view of this, I would be much grateful if you would kindly take every opportunity to explain to all your members that we would take all necessary steps to minimize disturbing wildlife on the mudflat during enforcement operations and hope that bird watchers will support staff of AFCD and the Police to fight against such illegal activities especially in the coming few months which is the low season of migratory birds.     Regards   C. L. Wong   AFCD End of the reply message « Last Edit: May 27th, 2003, 10:30pm by BBS Moderators » Logged Hoo-o.....Hoo-0 Alex_Tung BBS Member BBS Full Member I love bird watching!     Gender: Posts: 35 Re: Wishing they were Pelicans! « Reply #5 on: May 27th, 2003, 12:22am » Quote Modify Hi all Mai Po lovers,     Glad to know AFCD is taking corresponding actions to deal with the new species of Pelican.     Everybody would agree that solving the "Pelican" problem is a never easy job. And it is not realistic to expect the "Pelicans" will disappear in recent future Mr. Owlet-nightjar. Appropriate actions should not be taken in rush but step by step.     According to the reply of Mr.Wong C.L., AFCD representative, I think AFCD is now on the right track.     But one thing we all should bare in mind that AFCD is not the only party to deal with the problem. AFCD, Police, HKBWS members, WWF and all the Mai Po lovers should work in a harmony and fight against the "Pelicans" together.   We now see our government is taking actions to save OUR Mai Po. We are all on the same side, shall we stop blaming but giving support to them?         « Last Edit: May 27th, 2003, 1:01am by Alex_Tung » Logged Earlybird BBS Member BBS Junior Member Early bird eats the worm!     Posts: 25 Requesting Shenzhen authority to take serious .... « Reply #6 on: May 27th, 2003, 9:26am » Quote Modify on May 26th, 2003, 10:35pm, Owlet-nightjar wrote: Here is a reply message from AFCD, contents are self-explanatory. .... 3. Setting up connections with officials at Shenzhen Futien Nature Reserve and requesting the Shenzhen authority to take a serious view on such illegal cross border activities. ........In view of this, I would be much grateful if you would kindly take every opportunity to explain to all your members....   "Requesting the Shenzhen authority to take a serious view on such illegal cross border activities......." I really don't understand?! Does Shenzhen Government never think this is a serious problem?! and had the HK Government never told them this was a serious problem before?! Please also request Shenzhen authority taking a serious view on disturbance to the whole Ramsar Site.   "...setting up connection..." I also want to know whether there is any progress? Was it already mentioned for over half a year or maybe longer? Any action has already been taken or yet? What is the time frame to set up the connection? Who will take the lead, the AFCD, the Police, the Bureau Secretary or our Mr. TUNG? Can we have more detail to understand the existing and future situation? Logged 鳥友Ａ(BWA) Committee Member BBS God I love Nature!     Gender: Posts: 308 Re: Wishing they were Pelicans! « Reply #7 on: Jul 14th, 2003, 11:39pm » Quote Modify 從今天的無線新聞報導，各位可以看到當局如何用直升機捕捉花魚佬：   See how illegal fishermen at Mai Po are chased and caught using helicopters:   “米 埔濕地是香港的自然保護區居住了很多珍貴的動物。不過近年有非法入境者在米埔 捕魚，影響生態環境。”   http://news.tvb.com/630pm/2003/0714/index_2.html Logged HKBWS Office BBS Member BBS God     Posts: 1316 Re: Wishing they were Pelicans! « Reply #8 on: Jul 15th, 2003, 12:00pm » Quote Modify Two more pieces of news report today on illegal fishermen     Mng Pao Daily: 8內地人潛米埔偷獵被捕   http://full.mingpaonews.com/20030715/gsc1r.htm     South China Morning Post: Choppers sink Mai Po poachers « Last Edit: Jul 17th, 2003, 1:51am by HKBWS Office » Logged From the HKBWS Office Webcreeper BBS Moderator BBS Member BBS God I'm a webcreeper     Gender: Posts: 1031 Re: Wishing they were Pelicans! « Reply #9 on: Mar 22nd, 2004, 1:29pm » Quote Modify And last July as well!   Logged 　　　　　　　>}o-}o-　　　>}o-　　　　　　　　　>}o-　　　　.......x Pages: 1  Reply Send Topic Print Forum Jump: ----------------------------- Announcement 簡訊通告 -----------------------------  - Membership Affair 會員事務   - Outings / Activities 戶外活動 / 講座   - Projects 項目計劃   - Crested Bulbul Club 紅耳鵯俱樂部 ----------------------------- Discussion Area 討論區 -----------------------------  - General 一般問題 => Conservation 自然保育   - Bird Identification 鳥類辨識   - Birding Reports & Tips 觀鳥報告及心得   - Photo Gallery 相片分享 I   - Photo Gallery 相片分享 II ----------------------------- Special Topics 特別主題 -----------------------------  - Wild Birds & Avian Flu 野鳥與禽流感   - Sustainable Management Scheme in Long Valley 塱原可持續生態管理計劃   - Black-faced Spoonbill 黑臉琵鷺   - Goodbye Penfold 告別彭福   - Tern Conservation 燕鷗保育   - Black-eared Kite 鳶(麻鷹)   - Swifts and Swallows 燕與雨燕   - China Birdwatching Network 中國觀鳥活動網絡   - Winter Altas Survey 冬季鳥類普查   - Nature Conservation Policy 自然保育政策 ----------------------------- Knowledge Sharing 知識分享 -----------------------------  - FAQ 常見問題   - Archive 資料重溫 « Previous topic | Next topic »

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