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Dalmatian Pelican 卷羽鵜鶘
« on: Feb 26th, 2003, 8:19pm »
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Thirteen (13) Dalmatian Pelican and one (1) White Pelican are seen wintering here in Deep Bay this season. This shot was taken on 21 Feb 03 at the WWF boardwalk hides, MPNR 米埔.
 
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Re: Dalmatian Pelican
« Reply #1 on: Feb 26th, 2003, 9:27pm »
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KK,
 
Good capture even if they did not come close to the hide.
 
It looks as if the White Pelican was boycotted by the D Pelicans, so interesting.
 
Did you use smaller aperture with X-400 print film?
 
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« Reply #2 on: Feb 27th, 2003, 8:16am »
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on Feb 26th, 2003, 9:27pm, Daniel CK Chan wrote:

It looks as if the White Pelican was boycotted by the D Pelicans, so interesting.
 
Did you use smaller aperture with X-400 print film?

 
I was told that the WP might have been an escaped one; but I doubt it    It seems to stick to the flock of DP very well ...  It would be interesting to wait until March when they will be leaving for home. Will the WP join them too?
 
Yes, I did stop down to f/11 in this case and IS activated shooting w/ a monopod!
 
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« Reply #3 on: Feb 27th, 2003, 9:52am »
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I am sorry to have to say that I think the White Pelican is almost certainly an escape.  I had seen it briefly in flight before last weekend, and had thought it showed moult of the inner primaries and that this was symmetrical.  In short it looked like a moulting adult.  
 
However, on Saturday, I had good flight views of it and the Dalmatian Pelicans over Mai Po.  The White Pelican had almost no secondaries, and missing/damaged primaries.  This was asymmetrical and was clearly not normal moult.  If fact it looked to me like extensive damage that could only have occurred as a captive bird. One only has to compare it to moulting Dalmatian Pelicans to see the difference.
 
However, if any of the many excellent photographers out there get the opportunity to photograph it in flight it would useful to the exact extent of the damage.
 
Yesterday (and at the weekend) all the Pelicans were seen in flight over Mai Po.
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Re: Dalmatian Pelican 卷羽鵜鶘
« Reply #4 on: Feb 27th, 2003, 1:49pm »
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Take this chance to share a photo of White Pelican in-flight which was taken in Africa, 2001. As per Paul said, would like to see and share his in-flight photos before he leave MPNR.
 
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http://genji.image.pbase.com/u22/daniel_ck_chan/upload/13723607.wpelican 1.jpg

 
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« Reply #5 on: Feb 27th, 2003, 4:53pm »
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I would also like to share the following photo taken at Maipo 米埔 on 22-2-03. It shows the severely abraded seconaries of the Pelican. Could anybody please tell me whether the bird is the escape African Pelican or any other species? It looks a bit smaller than the nearby Dalmatians.
 
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« Reply #6 on: Feb 27th, 2003, 6:08pm »
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A very helpful photograph which show that all the secondaries are missing and about two thirds of the primaries.  I am surprised it can still fly!
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« Reply #7 on: Feb 27th, 2003, 6:33pm »
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Very poor white pelican!
Hey, please try your best to survive!
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非常可憐的鵜鶘先生(小姐?)
請加油!努力生存!
 
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« Reply #8 on: Feb 27th, 2003, 6:44pm »
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I am really curious.  just wonder if there's any aviary news nearby about escaped white pelican.  can anybody help to verify with different parties?
 
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White Pelican 白鵜鶘
« Reply #9 on: Feb 27th, 2003, 11:43pm »
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You can find the news about the escaped pelican in the two messages below which were posted in December 2002:-
 
http://www.hkbws.org.hk/cgi-bin/yabb/YaBB.pl?board=Discussion;action=dis play;num=1039146497
 
http://www.hkbws.org.hk/cgi-bin/yabb/YaBB.pl?board=PhotoGallery;action=d isplay;num=1040397581
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Re: White Pelican in Hong Kong - note its wings
« Reply #10 on: Feb 28th, 2003, 10:15pm »
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We have received message from a member who has took pictures of the White Pelican from another angle. Note its wings...
 
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Re: Dalmatian Pelican 卷羽鵜鶘
« Reply #11 on: Mar 2nd, 2003, 1:33am »
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真可憐!不知牠能不能跟卷羽近親一起遷徙,還是要留在本地獨自捱過香港的夏天 ?
 
Will it be able to migrate with the Dalmatians? Or it will  have to endure the summer alone in Hong Kong!
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Re: Dalmatian Pelican 卷羽鵜鶘
« Reply #12 on: Mar 2nd, 2003, 9:38am »
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on Mar 2nd, 2003, 1:33am, 鳥友A wrote:
Will it be able to migrate with the Dalmatians? Or it will  have to endure the summer alone in Hong Kong!

 
We certainly hope that this poor fellow will survive!  
 
Whether it will migrate home together with the D Pelican flock later in March will be interesting to watch ...  
 
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Re: Dalmatian Pelican 卷羽鵜鶘
« Reply #13 on: Mar 3rd, 2003, 12:14am »
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那些羽毛可以生回來嗎?
 
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on Mar 3rd, 2003, 12:14am, xyz_ps wrote:
那些羽毛可以生回來嗎?
 

 
I suspect it will regrow but will take a long time. Any expert can attest that??
 
If you look closely on the two photos above, all the secondaries on its left wing were gone (trimed?) and a large portion of the secondaries are still intact on the right wing. Without the primaries, the bird will have a real hard time to get airborne ...
 
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