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Narcissus Flycatcher ¶À¬Ü®VöÈ
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Re: Narcissus Flycatcher ¶À¬ÜöÈ
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373 Narcissus Flycatcher ¶À¬Ü®VöÈ
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« Reply #4 on: Apr 5th, 2003, 8:32pm »
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Daniel & 648,
 
Great shots of this little bird!
 
I'm not sure how much post processing you both had done but 648's shots are obviously sharper and color is more vivid. Could this be the superior resolution the 1D as compared to 10D? If not, I suspect the 600IS is far better in terms of sharpness and color rendition. That really has me thinking now!!!!!  Could I have some technical data such as iso setting, ss etc please ...
 
648:  What is that tiny white dot on your pictures
 
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Re: Narcissus Flycatcher ¶À¬ÜöÈ
« Reply #6 on: Apr 5th, 2003, 9:21pm »
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on Apr 5th, 2003, 8:51pm, 648 wrote:
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kk,
 
I have the white dots too but removed by PS.
 
The original photo is generated by PS automate - web photo gallery. I have re-saved by "save for web" now.
 
The info. of #1 is shown below.
 
Shooting Date/Time
     2003/4/5 PM 12:25:17
Shooting Mode
     Aperture-Priority AE
Tv( Shutter Speed )
     1/320
Av( Aperture Value )
     5.6
Metering Mode
     Evaluative
Exposure Compensation
     0
ISO Speed
     400
 
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on Apr 5th, 2003, 9:30pm, 648 wrote:
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Thank you both for the shooting info. I think even with IS activated, a ss of 1/320 ~ 1/125 sounds dangerously low to me for a subject that doesn't keep still. This bears out more in Daniel's images. I think using fill flash in this case  may save the day ...  
 
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on Apr 6th, 2003, 8:59am, KK Hui wrote:

 
Thank you both for the shooting info. I think even with IS activated, a ss of 1/320 ~ 1/125 sounds dangerously low to me for a subject that doesn't keep still. This bears out more in Daniel's images. I think using fill flash in this case  may save the day ...  
 
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I have tried to use ff with EF2X, but the result is not good as the eye is too white to me  
 
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« Reply #10 on: Apr 7th, 2003, 12:34pm »
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Hi Daniel & 648,
 
Both of you take good clean pictures ! Did you both use hides to wait for the bird to approach very closed to you to take photos ? How close was the bird (how many feet) ? Did you both switch on noise reduction for ISO 400 ? I tried flash photos in Tai Po Kau with noise reduction at ISO 400 and the birds and background still always appear grainy and powdery. Probably my pictures are mostly underexposed (didn't have better beamer) and magnified too much (didn't use hide, so I am quite far away from those birds). I guess both of you use shutter wire to avoiding shaking.
 
Awaiting your expert opinion.
 
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Bernard,
 
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Daniel & 648,
Excellent photos, I'm quite jealous indeed.
Can you tell me where I can find this lovely bird? Is it the path near the Great Crested Grebe?
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on Apr 7th, 2003, 2:56pm, Peter Wong wrote:

Daniel & 648,
Excellent photos, I'm quite jealous indeed.
Can you tell me where I can find this lovely bird? Is it the path near the Great Crested Grebe?

 
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