HKBWS BBS 香 港 觀 鳥 會 新 聞 組    Discussion Area 討論區    Photo Gallery 相片分享 I (Moderators: BBS Moderators, Forrest FONG, Kwok Jai, George_Ho, carmen)    Osprey 魚鷹 « Previous topic | Next topic » Pages: 1 2  Reply Send Topic Print    Author  Topic: Osprey 魚鷹  (Read 1725 times) felixcat BBS Member BBS God watch birds and be watched ...     Gender: Posts: 248 Osprey 魚鷹 « on: Nov 15th, 2004, 11:10pm » Quote Modify Osprey 魚鷹 14/11/2004 Mai Po Nature Reserve 10D+500/4+1.4XII ISO400, Evaluative @ f8   Though Black Kites are likely to be the Bird of November with so many great shoots posted, I would still like to post this cooperative Osprey for sharing, which provided me many chances to practise.  I chose these two shoots for posting showing the underwing details.   http://photo.iplux.com/albums/maipo_14112004_Osprey/CRW_3926.jpg   http://photo.iplux.com/albums/maipo_14112004_Osprey/CRW_4013.jpg   « Last Edit: Dec 21st, 2004, 6:03pm by carmen » Logged Daniel CK Chan BBS Member BBS God I love nature photography!     Gender: Posts: 794 Re: Osprey 魚鷹 « Reply #1 on: Nov 15th, 2004, 11:25pm » Quote Modify The #2 is good. Like the wing position, Felix! Looks too reddish to me..... Logged Daniel CK Chan http://www.danielckchan.com Etta BBS Member BBS God I love bird watching!     Posts: 993 Re: Osprey 魚鷹 « Reply #2 on: Nov 15th, 2004, 11:34pm » Quote Modify 好漂亮神氣啊！   Etta Logged 648 BBS Member BBS God     Posts: 439 Re: Osprey 魚鷹 « Reply #3 on: Nov 15th, 2004, 11:43pm » Quote Modify on Nov 15th, 2004, 11:10pm, felixcat wrote: 14/11/2004 Mai Po Nature Reserve   Though Black Kites are likely to be the Bird of November with so many great shoots posted, I would still like to post this cooperative Osprey for sharing, which provided me many chances to practise.  I chose these two shoots for posting showing the underwing details.     但白色的身體曝光有點過度;還是修圖的設定不當引至?     飛 « Last Edit: Nov 15th, 2004, 11:43pm by 648 » Logged felixcat BBS Member BBS God watch birds and be watched ...     Gender: Posts: 248 Re: Osprey 魚鷹 « Reply #4 on: Nov 15th, 2004, 11:58pm » Quote Modify on Nov 15th, 2004, 11:25pm, Daniel CK Chan wrote: The #2 is good. Like the wing position, Felix! Looks too reddish to me.....   Daniel,   Maybe white balance problem as this shoot was taken at around 4pm and I keep the color temperature a little bit warmer @5800K.  Do you think it is problem?   Felix   on Nov 15th, 2004, 11:43pm, 648 wrote:   但白色的身體曝光有點過度;還是修圖的設定不當引至?     飛   Dear Fei,   Here are the technical details (ISO400, f8, 1/800s, C1 processed).  Hope it is my problem instead of 10D's.  Otherwise, there will be one more reason to upgrade to 1dII la .  Any remedy you can suggest?   Felix Logged Anguslau BBS Member BBS God I love bird watching!     Posts: 402 Re: Osprey 魚鷹 « Reply #5 on: Nov 16th, 2004, 12:46pm » Quote Modify Like #2. But as mentioned, there seems to be some overexposure. I also felt that there was some strange color on the body. This may be produced if you adjust curve too much (try to brighten up the dark underwing??).     I use C1 as well, color accuracy with the 10D is generally pretty good (except with bright yellow using the builtin profile). Using AWB should be fine under most outdoor situations. If you still find your color not accurate enough, you may like to try the camera profiles by ETC. They are very accurate and I have no complaint at all. I have been adjusting my raw workflow all the time over the last 2 years. Still learning... But now I tried to do as little adjustments as possible. I only use +-EV in C1. After loading into PSCS, I'll adjust the black and highlight points using Level, also adjust the contrast via the middle slider. Then may be some final touch up using curve. For more aggressive shadow recovery, I found that PSCS's shadow recovery very effective. It is much easier to do and results much more natural than trying to fiddle with curve yourself.     Just my 2 cents worth... Logged KK Hui BBS Member BBS God Bird Photography - at its best ...     Posts: 940 Re: Osprey 魚鷹 « Reply #6 on: Nov 16th, 2004, 1:06pm » Quote Modify Ageed with Angus ... The funny color on the body of the #2 shot is largely due to over exposure in the first place. Attempt to rectify this using curve was overdone hence the result as is.   KK Hui ARPS www.geocities.com/kkhui_001 Logged felixcat BBS Member BBS God watch birds and be watched ...     Gender: Posts: 248 Re: Osprey 魚鷹 « Reply #7 on: Nov 17th, 2004, 12:02am » Quote Modify Thanks all experts for providing valuable advice to my photos and pointing out exactly what I have wrongly done.     I followed the suggestions made by Angus again (-0.35ev and auto white balance in C1 + some adjustments in PS).  Though I still can't fully handle all adjustments as advised, I re-post the photo #2 which I don't think correctly adjusted but for showing what I have overdone in adjusting the underwing details.     Software        C1 LE version 3.5.2 for Windows. Exposure time     1/800s F-Number    F 8.0 Exposure program      Aperture priority ISO speed ratings     ISO 400 Exposure bias value   EV 0.4 Metering mode    Multi-segment Flash             Off   White balance    Auto Logged Anguslau BBS Member BBS God I love bird watching!     Posts: 402 Re: Osprey 魚鷹 « Reply #8 on: Nov 17th, 2004, 3:04pm » Quote Modify Felix, just to show you what PSCS can do for you without getting into complicated adjustments using curve. I downloaded your image and applied shadow/highlight with all default settings... and come up with the following. A slightly better image may result with more tweaking of the parameters, but you get the idea... Logged 648 BBS Member BBS God     Posts: 439 Re: Osprey 魚鷹 « Reply #9 on: Nov 17th, 2004, 4:29pm » Quote Modify 《PhotoShop CS 完美呈現——數位攝影、修片》 http://www.cp1897.com.hk/BookInfo?BookId=9864216236&SectionId=10   很實用的一本PHOTOSHOP CS專書.   上圖左邊的翅膀本來很暗,就是用Angus所指shadow/highlight這功能修改的。   飛   « Last Edit: Nov 17th, 2004, 4:38pm by 648 » Logged Etta BBS Member BBS God I love bird watching!     Posts: 993 Re: Osprey 魚鷹 « Reply #10 on: Nov 17th, 2004, 6:59pm » Quote Modify 真神！  謝謝好介紹！;D   Etta Logged Webcreeper BBS Member BBS God I'm a webcreeper     Gender: Posts: 1031 Re: Osprey 魚鷹 « Reply #11 on: Nov 17th, 2004, 7:57pm » Quote Modify 謝謝Angus！   有 Photoshop CS 是否就不需要補光呢?   Does it mean that Photoshop CS can replace fill flash altogether? Logged 　　　　　　　>}o-}o-　　　>}o-　　　　　　　　　>}o-　　　　.......x 深藍 Owen BBS Administrator LOVE KINGFISHER~!     Gender: Posts: 1358 Re: Osprey 魚鷹 « Reply #12 on: Nov 17th, 2004, 9:09pm » Quote Modify shadow/highlight 過度的話. 都會有 noise. 甚至一條光邊圍注你個暗位架.. 可以補救. 但不等於萬能..     但其實我 d flight shot. 好多都用左 shadow/highlight... Logged ___________________ http://www.i-owen.com 香港昆蟲網 http://hkinsect.net/forum felixcat BBS Member BBS God watch birds and be watched ...     Gender: Posts: 248 Re: Osprey 魚鷹 « Reply #13 on: Nov 17th, 2004, 10:41pm » Quote Modify Thanks Angus and 648 again.   Need more practice and learning. Logged Forrest FONG BBS Administrator I love Bird Watching!     Gender: Posts: 1123 Workshop 工作坊 « Reply #14 on: Nov 18th, 2004, 1:15am » Quote Modify 看來要攪一次Photoshop執鳥相的工作坊，讓大家能徹底地交流寶貴的經驗及分享 各位高手的心得！ I think we need to arrange a workshop for members to share their valuable experience and tips on using Photoshop to touch up thier bird photos.   Hi KK, grateful if you could kindly accept my invitation to be the tutor of this workshop!   Forrest « Last Edit: Nov 18th, 2004, 1:20am by Forrest FONG » Logged FF Pages: 1 2  Reply Send Topic Print Forum Jump: ----------------------------- Announcement 簡訊通告 -----------------------------  - Membership Affair 會員事務   - Outings / Activities 戶外活動 / 講座   - Projects 項目計劃   - Crested Bulbul Club 紅耳鵯俱樂部 ----------------------------- Discussion Area 討論區 -----------------------------  - General 一般問題   - Conservation 自然保育   - Bird Identification 鳥類辨識   - Birding Reports & Tips 觀鳥報告及心得 => Photo Gallery 相片分享 I   - Photo Gallery 相片分享 II ----------------------------- Special Topics 特別主題 -----------------------------  - Wild Birds & Avian Flu 野鳥與禽流感   - Sustainable Management Scheme in Long Valley 塱原可持續生態管理計劃   - Black-faced Spoonbill 黑臉琵鷺   - Goodbye Penfold 告別彭福   - Tern Conservation 燕鷗保育   - Black-eared Kite 鳶(麻鷹)   - Swifts and Swallows 燕與雨燕   - China Birdwatching Network 中國觀鳥活動網絡   - Winter Altas Survey 冬季鳥類普查   - Nature Conservation Policy 自然保育政策 ----------------------------- Knowledge Sharing 知識分享 -----------------------------  - FAQ 常見問題   - Archive 資料重溫 « Previous topic | Next topic »

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