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        Discussion Area 討論區 >> Bird Identification 鳥類辨識 >>  Unidentified bird
        
(Message started by: Little parrot on Feb 11^th, 2004, 9:19pm)

Title: Unidentified bird
Post by Little parrot on Feb 11^th, 2004, 9:19pm

Any idea on what is it?
Images captured from DV.
Taken on 10/2/04 at Chung Mei.
Size about 6 inches.

http://www.geocities.com/parrotj001/DSC00765a.jpg

http://www.geocities.com/parrotj001/DSC00766a.jpg

Thanks.

Title: Re: Unidentified bird
Post by Falcon on Feb 11^th, 2004, 11:31pm

This one should be a Lesser Shortwing. ;) maybe it is the same bird i saw the other day!! :D

Title: Re: Unidentified bird
Post by Little parrot on Feb 12^th, 2004, 9:40pm

The tail of the bird look a bit longer to me :-/

Title: Re: Unidentified bird
Post by gjcarey on Feb 13^th, 2004, 10:36am

I can't see the images...

Does anybody else have this problem?

Geoff

Title: Re: Unidentified bird
Post by Owen on Feb 13^th, 2004, 12:01pm

same, deadlink..

Title: Re: Unidentified bird
Post by guest on Feb 13^th, 2004, 5:15pm

S ???o do I

Title: Re: Unidentified bird
Post by Little parrot on Feb 13^th, 2004, 8:58pm

I don't know why but I can see the images.

Pl. try the link direct:

http://www.geocities.com/parrotj001/DSC00765a.jpg

http://www.geocities.com/parrotj001/DSC00766a.jpg

Title: Re: Unidentified bird
Post by guest on Feb 13^th, 2004, 9:10pm

A message "the link is not available" is return. I do not know whether there is something wrong with my computer or the server.

Title: Re: Unidentified bird
Post by Karl on Feb 13^th, 2004, 10:25pm

do a copy and paste the link to your browser url field and don't click the link directly.

Title: Re: Unidentified bird
Post by Karl on Feb 13^th, 2004, 10:33pm

i try to put the photos at my server temporarily and will delete them later on.  you should be able to see them now.
283 Siberian Rubythroat 紅喉歌鴝
http://karl.cupnoodles.net/albums/bird/DSC00765a.jpg
http://www.hkbws.org.hk/fileServer/PhotoG/Karl/Karl_001.jpg
http://karl.cupnoodles.net/albums/bird/DSC00766a.jpg
http://www.hkbws.org.hk/fileServer/PhotoG/Karl/Karl_002.jpg

Title: Re: Unidentified bird
Post by Falcon on Feb 13^th, 2004, 10:47pm

You can see the white browed and the white throut. ;)

Title: Re: Unidentified bird
Post by Mike Turnbull on Feb 15^th, 2004, 2:34pm

This is not a Lesser Shortwing. The tail is too long and the coloration and patterning of the plumage looks wrong. Take a look at Peter Wong's pictures from Tai Po Kau posted here on 22 Jan.

I'm really not sure what it actually is however, though Siberian Rubythroat (female) seems a possibility.

Suggest you look closely at the rest of your video with this possibility in mind.

Mike Turnbull

Title: Re: Unidentified bird
Post by TH_Kwan on Feb 15^th, 2004, 9:01pm

I did see Peter's master piece of the Lesser Shortwing a couple of weeks ago. I am not sure if the bird we saw in Chungmei several days ago was exactly the one shown here. We saw it in a dark bush along with two RF Bluetails. It was already dusk. We had a end on glimpse of the bird, a plump and cute bird with whitish throat and faint white brow just like the one illustrated by Peter previously. The wing and tail also looked a bit awkwardly short too. I do agree that the tail of the bird shown here seems a bit too long for Lesser Shortwing but otherwise Lesser Shortwing seems somewhat possible. This again illustrated the complexity of bird identification in the field, especially when involving female birds and juvenile birds.

Title: Re: Unidentified bird
Post by Little parrot on Feb 15^th, 2004, 9:59pm

Thanks all for the help and advise. ;)

Title: Re: Unidentified bird
Post by Mike Turnbull on Feb 15^th, 2004, 11:20pm

Still don't think it really looks like a Lesser Shortwing (why does it appear to have lines on the crown?). Also agree with your point on ID difficulties, TH, but think it illustrates the difficulties of identifying some birds from pictures, rather than in the field - for example I'm now not 100% certain that what I thought was the tail actually is the tail - though I still think it is!

Btw, I do think you probably saw a Lesser Shortwing at Chung Mei, but am not sure this is a photo of it - but it may be!.

Mike Turnbull

Title: Re: Unidentified bird
Post by Paul Leader on Feb 16^th, 2004, 2:30pm

This is female Siberian Rubythroat. The structure fits exactly and clearly wrong for Lesser Shortwing (primary projection, tail and tarsus all too long). Also the poorly defined throat pattern of female (especially first-winter birds) can also be seen including the surround to the sub-moustachial stripe.