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(Message started by: 深藍 Owen on Oct 17^th, 2005, 6:34pm)

Title: Honey Buzzard ?
Post by 深藍 Owen on Oct 17^th, 2005, 6:34pm

Mai Po
17/10/2005
Canon 20D

#1
http://www.hkbws.org.hk/fileServer/PhotoG/owen/owen_187.jpg
http://www.pbase.com/bluetitan/image/50858211.jpg

#2
http://www.hkbws.org.hk/fileServer/PhotoG/owen/owen_188.jpg
http://www.pbase.com/bluetitan/image/50858213.jpg

Title: Re: Honey Buzzard ?
Post by Jz on Oct 17^th, 2005, 11:37pm

add 2 more for better ID

17/10/2005
MaiPo
1dmk2 + 300 + 2x

http://www.hkbws.org.hk/fileServer/PhotoG/jz/Jz_011.jpg
http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y79/jzsfotografix/GZ2X6750.jpg

http://www.hkbws.org.hk/fileServer/PhotoG/jz/Jz_012.jpg
http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y79/jzsfotografix/GZ2X6751.jpg

Title: Re: Honey Buzzard ?
Post by MaC_siu_kit on Oct 17^th, 2005, 11:42pm

both great shots~~ ;D

Title: Re: Honey Buzzard ?
Post by Paul Leader on Oct 18^th, 2005, 3:22pm

It is a harrier, but to be honest, I'm not sure which one.

Although it looks superficially like a juvenile, it is clearly not as it is in primary moult and the secondaries are slightly worn and messy, so it is probably a second winter bird. The lack of pale markings around the head and on the leading edge of the wing, plus the general richness of the underpart colouration (rather rich brown) suggest Pied Harrier, but I'm not sure that it is not just an unusually warm Eastern Marsh.

Do you have an any pictures showing the upperparts?

Title: Re: Honey Buzzard ?
Post by 深藍 Owen on Oct 18^th, 2005, 10:34pm

Thanks Paul would this help a bit to ID this Raptors?

http://www.hkbws.org.hk/fileServer/PhotoG/owen/owen_152.jpg
http://www.i-owen.com/photo/IMG_1786.jpg

Title: Re: Honey Buzzard ?
Post by Paul Leader on Oct 20^th, 2005, 2:16pm

Difficult! To be honest I'm still not sure, but the pale rump and especially the strong greyish tones to the primary coverts and inner primaries must all strongly favour Pied. I can think of no plumage in Eastern Marsh where the primary coverts are grey and unmarked (males would have grey pcs but I would expect them to show obvious black spots). Sturcturally it looks good for Pied but I'm concerned that the moult is making it appear more narrow winged.