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(Message started by: hoooon on Nov 19^th, 2005, 11:14pm)

Title: ¬õÔG Kestrel?
Post by hoooon on Nov 19^th, 2005, 11:14pm

Bird ID, please.
19/11/2005
Near Fairview Park, Yuen Long

http://www.hkbws.org.hk/fileServer/PhotoG/hoooon/hoooon.001.jpg
http://i.pbase.com/o2/04/365604/1/52455058.IMG_9028a.jpg

http://www.hkbws.org.hk/fileServer/PhotoG/hoooon/hoooon.002.jpg
http://i.pbase.com/o2/04/365604/1/52455062.IMG_9031b.jpg

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Title: Re: ¬õÔG Kestrel?
Post by Webcreeper on Nov 20^th, 2005, 12:40pm

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Title: Re: ¬õÔG Kestrel?
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Title: Re: ¬õÔG Kestrel?
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Title: Re: ¬õÔG Kestrel?
Post by miket on Nov 21^st, 2005, 8:42pm

Not sure what has been discussed about this bird, as there was clearly some query about it's ID implied in the subject line, but it's interesting that if you zoom in on the feet the claws appear to be pale - supposedly diagnostic of Lesser Kestrel (Common Kestrel has dark claws). Plumage differences between the two species in juv./female plumages are slight, and in terms of shape, moustachial, +perhaps underside of body and underwing patterning it seems to be just a Common Kestrel.

Do others agree it appears to have pale claws?

Do our local Common Kestrels definitely have dark claws?

Mike Turnbull

Title: Re: ¬õÔG Kestrel?
Post by Captain on Nov 22^nd, 2005, 10:43am

Hi Mike,

I saw at least two dark claws of its left leg - first and second digit.

Cheers,

Captain

Title: Re: ¬õÔG Kestrel?
Post by Webcreeper on Nov 22^nd, 2005, 12:27pm

on 11/21/05 at 20:42:26, miket wrote:

Not sure what has been discussed about this bird, as there was clearly some query about it's ID implied in the subject line, but it's interesting that if you zoom in on the feet the claws appear to be pale - supposedly diagnostic of Lesser Kestrel (Common Kestrel has dark claws).  Plumage differences between the two species in juv./female plumages are slight, and in terms of shape, moustachial, +perhaps underside of body and underwing patterning it seems to be just a Common Kestrel.

Do others agree it appears to have pale claws?

Do our local Common Kestrels definitely have dark claws?

Mike Turnbull

I was comparing its wings with chicken wings, in particular the extended alula.

The overall impression to me is a Common Kestrel, but I'm not sure about the colour of the claws. :-/

Title: Re: ¬õÔG Kestrel?
Post by miket on Nov 22^nd, 2005, 9:52pm

Yes see what you mean Captain. There's certainly one dark claw from the left lying across the right foot, isn't there. I guess I was taking the 'knuckles' for the base of the claws.

Mike