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(Message started by: Jz on Mar 24^th, 2006, 4:20pm)

Title: Juvenile shrike needs ID
Post by Jz on Mar 24^th, 2006, 4:20pm

02/03/2006
KL park
1d2+EF300/2.8+kenko2x

http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y79/jzsfotografix/GZ2X6662edit.jpg

After searching the internet and books, i think i will give up and let the experts ID this.

Firstly the scales points out that this is a juv bird.
The brown plummage leads me to Brown Shrike instantly but somehow the grey head doesn't associate with brown shrike. Did saw images of brown shrikes with grey head but would like to hear some explanation on this.
The tail is not dark enough to be a Long Tailed Shrike as well.
I do hav a back view of it and it shows no 'tiger stripes'.

Burmese, Bull headed, Dusky, Large Wood seems to be too rare and i am not really familiar with them.

Would appreciate some help on this  
thx so much   ;D

Jz

Title: Re: Juvenile shrike needs ID
Post by bond on Mar 24^th, 2006, 10:30pm

Long tail, a clear white eyebrow, pale colour on the base of beak, could it be a female/immature brown shrike (lucionensis)?

Title: Re: Juvenile shrike needs ID
Post by Mike Kilburn on Mar 25^th, 2006, 7:05am

Hmmm. . .

This is an interesting bird, especially the combination of the grey head and dark mask , but with the brown barred flanks and brown back.

I think I agree with Bond that it is most likely a Brown Shrike.

Look at the picture of Brown Shrike by Gehan de Silva Wijeyeratne in Oriental Bird Images. Even though the back is a different colour the head pattern is rather similar.

Do you have pix from other angles? it would be interesting to see them even if the quality is not as good as on this pic.

Cheers
Mike K

Title: Re: Juvenile shrike needs ID
Post by Jz on Mar 25^th, 2006, 4:48pm

thx for the IDs guys

i did look through the images in OBC
a few of the brown shrikes does hav grey head

so is it common for brown shrikes to have grey head?

here's another back view of it
http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y79/jzsfotografix/GZ2X6667edit.jpg

Title: Re: Juvenile shrike needs ID
Post by macca on Mar 26^th, 2006, 4:56am

Although I haven't seen one in the field quite like this myself, I think it does look like a 'fairly' normal female lucionensis Brown Shrike. The not quite solid black ear coverts and especially the lores, combined with the pale based bill and distinct flank markings are indicative of a female and the birds plumage combined with the very short outer tail feather (which is visible in the back view) all point to Brown Shrike for me.

Then again we don't get too many to study here in the UK!

Cheers,

Ian

Ian McKerchar, UK