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(Message started by: Joe Yip on May 15th, 2006, 12:38pm)
Title: Kowloon Birds 14/5 and before 九龍零碎鳥況
Post by Joe Yip on May 15th, 2006, 12:38pm
九龍零碎鳥況（油尖旺，大角咀 - 美孚，紅磡）

為免麻煩，亦為免質疑，把範圍擴闊一些吧，
反正在紀錄上，也只說市區鳥況，都只是報告一份．
也可把其他零碎的發現，都併進這裡來

在這鬧區中，有一些小小的林地或小小的公園，
原來可為迷途的過景鳥提供休憩地，讓他們休養生息．為北遷作好準備.
亦為鬧市加上一點　『邊沿自然』的感覺．

PS:
鬧市中拍鳥，忌閃，忌喧．忌群聚．鏡頭忌指向人家的窗戶．
附近的居民都愛　旺中帶『靜』，不受干擾．
他們有影響能力，可狺F這些暫時林木地的． :-[這些都是迷鳥，不|長居此地，所以詳細地點不便公開，公開了也不|找到，這只是路過的鳥吧，路鳥甲，

其實，香港各處，某些時段　渺無人跡，若是候鳥遷徙季節，
加上運氣，或|有別的發現．

這貼目的，是想提醒大家，大自然就在我們身邊，未曾離開過．

http://nature.hc.edu.tw/vbb/showthread.php?t=2091


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@ 14.5.06
South of Mongkok
SparrowHawk 雀鷹

初時是拍著一小隊山雀(三隻)

抬頭一看，見到一隻不知名的椋鳥，也都隨手按它數張．(真濫拍)．
但當他轉過頭來，是鷹隼！？是隼！？

但那有這麼『小』的鷹隼，回家查書，
才知道，應該是雀鷹．

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http://nature.hc.edu.tw/vbb/attachment.php?attachmentid=23435&stc=1
http://nature.hc.edu.tw/vbb/attachment.php?attachmentid=23436&stc=1

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@ 7.5.06
North of Mongkok
Night Heron 夜鷺
三年了，Cool Cool 夜鷺也都停在這　一時惡臭，一時清新的明渠處，
一直也沒發現渠中有魚，(可能太細小吧)，
但這明渠，確實為附近的鳥，提供消暑，淡水和虫．

http://nature.hc.edu.tw/vbb/attachment.php?attachmentid=23476&stc=1


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@ 6.5.06
South of Mongkok

他們|觀人，每次總要停在樹下十多分鐘不動，他們才|感到安全，繼續空中補食．

Asian Brown FlyCatcher
http://nature.hc.edu.tw/vbb/attachment.php?attachmentid=23481&stc=1
http://nature.hc.edu.tw/vbb/attachment.php?attachmentid=23482&stc=1
http://nature.hc.edu.tw/vbb/attachment.php?attachmentid=23483&stc=1

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@ 1.5.06
South of Mongkok

在公園內被棄至的蜘蛛網，
原來是由牠做成的．

COMMON TAILOR 長尾縫葉鶯 @1/80s
http://nature.hc.edu.tw/vbb/attachment.php?attachmentid=23484&stc=1
http://nature.hc.edu.tw/vbb/attachment.php?attachmentid=23485&stc=1

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@ 30.4.06
South of Mongkok
ASIAN PARADISE-FLYCATCHER 壽帶鳥
本來是找北灰鶲的，等了很久，飛來了一隻紅耳鵯，
好吧！你想上鏡，那便給你拍個照．

但．．．
從viewfinder 看進去，手心冒汗，以至全部相片，因興奮而手震 :(
這是我第一次見到的．
My God, 為何你不找個有陽光的位置呢?

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http://nature.hc.edu.tw/vbb/attachment.php?attachmentid=23486&stc=1

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http://nature.hc.edu.tw/vbb/attachment.php?attachmentid=23487&stc=1

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http://nature.hc.edu.tw/vbb/attachment.php?attachmentid=23488&stc=1

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http://nature.hc.edu.tw/vbb/attachment.php?attachmentid=23489&stc=1

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http://nature.hc.edu.tw/vbb/attachment.php?attachmentid=23490&stc=1

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@ 29.3.06
West of Mongkok
BLACK-TAILED HAWFINCH 黑尾蜡咀雀

久違了的，(上一年在九龍公園見過之後)
黑尾蜡咀雀　也|迷路，在迷濛的毛毛雨天下，跑到了舊區的小公園來找吃

http://nature.hc.edu.tw/vbb/attachment.php?attachmentid=23495&stc=1

http://nature.hc.edu.tw/vbb/attachment.php?attachmentid=23496&stc=1

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@ 28.3.06
West of Mongkok
為數３－４隻，比小綠大一倍的 不知名　鶯，
也迷路，在這小公園內裹腹．
來得快，走得更快，只可以找到這幀．
http://nature.hc.edu.tw/vbb/attachment.php?attachmentid=23497&stc=1

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@ 18.3.06
South of Mongkok
GREY-HEADED FLYCATCHER 方尾鶲
(11.3.06 - 18.3.06 ONLY STAY FOR A WEEK)

我是甚麼，我是甚麼，看不清．
在市區喎．
哈哈，這只方尾鶲，跟上了一群北灰鶲，來了這裡，
肯定啦，整個冬天也是一個兒在空中補吃．

３月還是冬天嗎？
今年真怪，|月也|凍得像冬天一樣，可能就是天氣的變化，使候鳥不知所措，
回北，還是留多幾天．
這便暫找個地方算吧．

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http://nature.hc.edu.tw/vbb/attachment.php?attachmentid=23498&stc=1

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http://nature.hc.edu.tw/vbb/attachment.php?attachmentid=23499&stc=1

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http://nature.hc.edu.tw/vbb/attachment.php?attachmentid=23500&stc=1


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@ 10.3.06
North of Mongkok
ASIAN BROWN FLYCATCHER

北灰鶲　想是候鳥中最不揀擇的鳥，每年也有群落飛到市區來，
這一只，好像要待換毛完畢才飛走呢？
http://nature.hc.edu.tw/vbb/attachment.php?attachmentid=23501&stc=1
http://nature.hc.edu.tw/vbb/attachment.php?attachmentid=23502&stc=1
http://nature.hc.edu.tw/vbb/attachment.php?attachmentid=23503&stc=1


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@ 6.3.06
Centre of Mongkok
SPOTTED DOVE 珠頸班鳩

這只不怕人的班鳩，竟然在鬧市中的小公園內築巢，
不用說了吧，翌日，鳥和巢都不見了，
我算是走運吧，可以紀錄這不當的決定．
http://nature.hc.edu.tw/vbb/attachment.php?attachmentid=23504&stc=1

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@ 5.3.06
North of Mongkok
一年了，一年也找不到好的鶯照，真失敗！

http://nature.hc.edu.tw/vbb/attachment.php?attachmentid=23505&stc=1
http://nature.hc.edu.tw/vbb/attachment.php?attachmentid=23506&stc=1
Title: Re: 旺角迷城 14.5.06 及以前的紀錄 Mongkok Birds 14
Post by LUN on May 15th, 2006, 8:09pm
係唔係真係旺角ga?
仲多野個tpk :o
Title: Re: 旺角迷城 14.5.06 及以前的紀錄 Mongkok Birds 14
Post by waterblowing on May 15th, 2006, 8:37pm
位置係邊頭 ??
真係不可思議....
一個字........強
Title: Re: 旺角迷城 14.5.06 及以前的紀錄 Mongkok Birds 14
Post by Webcreeper on May 15th, 2006, 8:54pm
閉關多月，一出手就兩大輯連環圖，可見功力又有相當進益了！ :D
Title: Re: 旺角迷城 14.5.06 及以前的紀錄 Mongkok Birds 14
Post by Joe Yip on May 15th, 2006, 9:27pm
附近的居民都愛　旺中帶『靜』，是富戶，不喜歡受干擾．
拍鳥時亦曾經被人查問，
他們有影響能力，可狺F這些暫時林木地的．  

（只須砍低樹幹，修剪草叢，多噴殺虫劑，便成了．旺角北某公園便這樣給狺F，現正待它自行恢復中．．．:( )

加上這些都是迷鳥，不|長居此地，所以詳細地點不便公開，公開了也不|找到，他們只是路過的鳥， 還|引來滋擾，使鳥量減少．

－－－－－－－－－－－－－－－－－

其實，香港各處，只要有些時段　渺無人跡，又是候鳥遷徙季節，
若碰上天氣變化，
加上運氣，
或|有別的發現．

喂！又颳風了．試試出動罷．

－－－－－－－－－－－－－－－－－

這一貼的目的，是一份簡單的報告，
報告某地區的發現．

亦希望　刺激大家，多作觀察，多作報告．

從家裡，從公司裡　開始　親近　大自然．
大自然就在我們身邊，未曾離開過．

各大小公園的十米高大樹，早上時份，大山雀出現的機|頗高，
留意他們彼此聯絡的聲音．
縫葉鶯更已長駐在任何有草叢群的各大小公園．
樹花開放的季節，不用到　tpk, 請留意有沒有　太陽鳥　宣示　地盤的叫聲．
(母鳥|多些，雄鳥聲較大且壯)

(　在上環某處，我亦曾經聽到　懷疑是　八聲杜鵑　的歌聲．)
烏鶇，噪鵑，白鶺鴒等就全港都見．

各大小學校一帶，假日都|成為鳥的聚居地，尤其是學校群一帶，
據我所知，九龍城　的鳥況　比旺角更精彩．
那明渠更曾發現|隻以上翠鳥．還有蒼鷺．
另外，各處碼頭，在非上班時段，也|偶有發現．小鷺是極容易找到，偶有磯鷸．

西九一帶，亦發見有焦鶯．

鳥友A 的發現，也是一個極好例子．待賞中．．．

希望大家多多留意　身邊的環境，
市區中尋鳥，也是一個挺悅快的經歷．
Title: Re: 旺角迷城 14.5.06 及以前的紀錄 Mongkok Birds 14
Post by Joe Yip on May 15th, 2006, 9:37pm

on 05/15/06 at 20:54:17, Webcreeper wrote:
閉關多月，一出手就兩大輯連環圖，可見功力又有相當進益了！ :D


都是一些便宜貨色，報告一份．
不過看多，聽多，仰著頭走路也多了:D，(一張怪模樣)
加一點鳥運．

不過成功率很低，很低．
可能的話，我還|選擇米埔，松仔園．
Title: Re: 旺角迷城 14.5.06 及以前的紀錄 Mongkok Birds 14
Post by Sze on May 15th, 2006, 10:12pm
祖葉施主！一個字講晒─「強」！
佩服你的耐力及善心！
加油加油！ :)
Title: Re: 旺角迷城 14.5.06 及以前的紀錄 Mongkok Birds 14
Post by Joe Yip on May 15th, 2006, 10:39pm

on 05/15/06 at 22:12:21, Sze wrote:
祖葉施主！一個字講晒─「強」！
佩服你的耐力及善心！
加油加油！ :)


妳也多多加油，加油! :)
Title: Re: 旺角迷城 14.5.06 及以前的紀錄 Mongkok Birds 14
Post by Mike Kilburn on May 15th, 2006, 10:41pm
These are an excellent set of records from an unusual area!

The warbler photographed on 28th March looks to mee like it might be Sykes' Warbler (a recent split from Booted Warbler). If so it is a very good record - only the second or third record for Hong Kong.

Why Sykes' Warbler?

The long pale bill with a short supercilium before the eye eliminates all phylloscopus warblers, and the square-ended tail I think eliminates the acrocephalus warblers, hence Sykes as my best bet.

I'd be interested to hear what others think.

Cheers
Mike K
Title: Re: Kowloon Birds 14/5 and before
Post by Joe Yip on May 16th, 2006, 10:36am
Thanks Mike.
A flock of 3-4 of them come and gone very fast, I have only about 5 mins to take them.
They moved quickly on the top of trees.
My gear cannot AF in these environment. It's difficult to take them with MF.
Here are 3 of 5 pictures I've got.
Cropped and for your reference.

http://nature.hc.edu.tw/vbb/attachment.php?attachmentid=23609&stc=1
http://nature.hc.edu.tw/vbb/attachment.php?attachmentid=23610&stc=1
http://nature.hc.edu.tw/vbb/attachment.php?attachmentid=23611&stc=1
Title: Re: Kowloon Birds 14/5 and before 九龍零碎鳥況
Post by Little Dolphin on May 16th, 2006, 5:22pm
一字記之曰： 強


on 05/15/06 at 12:38:05, Joe Yip wrote:
從viewfinder 看進去，手心冒汗，以至全部相片，因興奮而手震 :(
這是我第一次見到的．
My God, 為何你不找個有陽光的位置呢?


不需要陽光也很美！在市區祖葉施主都能找到這隻鳥，佩服佩服！
Title: Re: Kowloon Birds 14/5 and before 九龍零碎鳥況
Post by miket on May 16th, 2006, 9:20pm
Everything we can see on the possible Sykes's Warbler looks good for that species, but are you sure there were 3-4 of them - that sounds very odd.

Mike Turnbull
Title: Re: Kowloon Birds 14/5 and before 九龍零碎鳥況
Post by macca on May 17th, 2006, 1:52am
Hi Mike and all,

forgive me for putting my two-penneth in, but.....

Now I could be wrong (read-probably am!) but despite Sykes generally looking very acrocephaline I feel this bird looks just too much like an acrocephalus warbler.

Are the undertail coverts a little too long for a Hippolais Warbler? They appear (on the bottom image) to extend 3/4 down the length of the tail, also, the outer-tail feathers atleast (noticable on the first image?) appear very short, much like those on an 'acro'. The tail does indeed look square ended but I feel this may be due to the way the feathers are being held.

Even if this were correct, it still leaves the question of which acrocephalus warbler! :-/

Best wishes,

Ian (UK)
Title: Re: Kowloon Birds 14/5 and before 九龍零碎鳥況
Post by Mike Kilburn on May 17th, 2006, 7:49am
Dear Ian and others

I have to admit that the first species I thought of was Blyth's Reed, but wend for Sykes's on the basis of the tail shape and long pale lower mandible.

I have no claim to expertise and certinly do not have a definitive answer but have seen all the contenders in China and/or HK.  Reed Warbler has never occurrd in HK, but there is one record of fuscus from E China and it breeeds in Xinjiang. There are no records of Marsh Warbler anywhere near and none in China.

I think we can ignore any prospect of Paddyfield, Manchurian or Black-browed Reed becuase the super does not extend beyond the eye, and its clealy not an Oriental, Great or Thick-billed Reed.

I think we can also eliminate Blunt-winged on the length of the bill, and the fact it ought to have a dark tip to the lower mandible.

Forgive me for disagreeing, but I stick by my original thoughts about the tail being square-ended. However I agree that the undertial coverts extend beyond halfway down the tail.

I don not think it shows an eyering, as fuscus Reed Warbler should show, too much in the way of a supercilium.

For me it comes down to a decision between Blyth's Reed and Sykes's Warbler (with fuscus Reed Warbler as a dark horse contender with an outside chance). The all pale lower mandible appears to be more consistent with Sykes's than Blyth's, especially given the spring date.

I have no way to account for the fact that there 4-5 were seen together except for the scary notion that they may have been released/escaped from the bird market - it makes record assessment much harder if warblers are found to be traded through HK as there has been no evidence of this to date. I'll leave that particular to the Records committee.

I'd be interested to hear others' opinion of what is clearly an interesting bird.

Cheers
Mike K
Title: Re: Kowloon Birds 14/5 and before 九龍零碎鳥況
Post by Joe Yip on May 17th, 2006, 1:38pm

on 05/16/06 at 17:22:42, Little Dolphin wrote:
一字記之曰： 強


不需要陽光也很美！在市區祖葉施主都能找到這隻鳥，佩服佩服！


Thanks,
只是偶遇！

:)
Title: Re: Kowloon Birds 14/5 and before 九龍零碎鳥況
Post by Joe Yip on May 17th, 2006, 1:41pm

on 05/16/06 at 21:20:42, miket wrote:
but are you sure there were 3-4 of them - that sounds very odd.

Mike Turnbull


Hi All,

Thank you for your kindly reply. :)

Identifying Warbler is very very ~~~ very difficult to me.

What can I do is :
Just take the pics and tell what I remembered.

At the same time, I understand that human biasing is an important factor to be considered.
Birdwatcher may get the wrong message at a short glance.
:)

Besides, the place is not near to the birdmarket. And I've never seen warbler in cages in the Birdmarket.

Good luck.

:)
Title: Re: 旺角迷城 14.5.06 及以前的紀錄 Mongkok Birds 14
Post by Etta on May 17th, 2006, 4:35pm

on 05/15/06 at 21:27:28, Joe Yip wrote:
其實，香港各處，只要有些時段　渺無人跡，又是候鳥遷徙季節，
若碰上天氣變化，
加上運氣，
或|有別的發現．

喂！又颳風了．試試出動罷．


細細聲問祖葉師主：珍珠來了，有無出動丫？  ;D
Title: Re: Kowloon Birds 14/5 and before 九龍零碎鳥況
Post by HF_Cheung on May 19th, 2006, 6:50pm
In view of Mike's comment on a possible Syke's Warbler, I now post a photo of Syke's Warbler that I took in Xinjiang 2001 Summer.   One can see for yourself how the two birds fit each other.
http://www.geocities.com/aphfcheung/2004122059946345.jpg
HF Cheung
Title: Re: Kowloon Birds 14/5 and before 九龍零碎鳥況
Post by johnallcock on Jun 16th, 2006, 5:25pm
I'd missed out on the discussion about this warbler but have just stumbled upon it. My personal feeling is that this actually appears to be a species of phylloscopus. The third picture clearly shows a long supercilium behind the eye, and the 'jizz' in all three is not quite right for an acro. Even the second of the three pictures (which is the one originally posted which prompted this discussion, and does look slightly acro-like) seems to show some sort of supercliium behind the eye, but the angle of the head makes this slightly unclear. On my screen there is a slight green tinge to the upperparts, again consistent with a phyllosc.

If this is a phyllosc, it would also explain the problem of habitat and behaviour (it would certainly be very unusual for any species of acrocephalus or hippolais to be travelling in a fast-moving flock in a tree-top!)

So for me, the question is which species of phyllosc? There I must admit I struggle slightly more. My first reaction was arctic warbler but I think the completely pale lower mandible rules this out, and the date would be unusual. My best guess would be eastern crowned warbler, but the bird does not seem quite bright enough, especially the undertail coverts. A trick of the light maybe?

Incidentally, with reference to the comments about trade in warblers, I have in the past seen eastern crowned warbler for sale in one of the bird shops in Yuen Long. So maybe there is some trade at a very low level?
Title: Re: Kowloon Birds 14/5 and before 九龍零碎鳥況
Post by macca on Jun 17th, 2006, 2:41am
Acro, Hippo, Phyllosc!

An interesting selection of personal opinions, which given the topics residence in the 'Birding Reports & Tips' section, is perhaps being missed by the birding 'masses' as John has pointed out. Any chance of it being moved to the 'Bird identification' section, where it could be better discussed?

For what it's worth I'm still sticking with an acrocephalus  ;)

All the best,

Ian (UK)
Title: Re: Kowloon Birds 14/5 and before 九龍零碎鳥況
Post by Webcreeper on Jun 17th, 2006, 8:06pm
Relevant posts have been reposted under Bird ID:

Reposts - warbler ID 轉貼 - 鶯的辨認 (http://www.hkbws.org.hk/cgi-bin/yabb/YaBB.pl?board=BirdingTips;action=display;num=1150545710;start=0)
Title: Re: Kowloon Birds 14/5 and before 九龍零碎鳥況
Post by Joe Yip on Aug 10th, 2006, 9:30am
20051218
Dusky Warbler 褐柳鶯
旺角 Mongkok
http://www.MyOnlineImages.com/Members/joeyip/images/Img_7020.jpg


20051218
Azure-winged Magpie 灰喜鵲
旺角 Mongkok
http://www.MyOnlineImages.com/Members/joeyip/images/Img_7005.jpg
Title: Re: Kowloon Birds 14/5 and before 九龍零碎鳥況
Post by Joe Yip on Aug 10th, 2006, 5:41pm
20051216
藍磯鶇 Blue Rock-Thrush
大角咀Tai Kok Tsui
http://www.myonlineimages.com/Members/joeyip/images/IMG_6769.jpg

20051216
磯鷸 Common Sandpiper
大角咀Tai Kok Tsui
http://www.myonlineimages.com/Members/joeyip/images/Img_6783.jpg
Title: Re: Kowloon Birds 14/5 and before 九龍零碎鳥況
Post by Sze on Aug 12th, 2006, 1:56am

on 08/10/06 at 17:41:06, Joe Yip wrote:
20051216
藍磯鶇 Blue Rock-Thrush
大角咀Tai Kok Tsui
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Good Shot ar!  :o


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