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(Message started by: Richard_Lewthwaite on Mar 22^nd, 2004, 10:10am)

Title: Disturbance by fishermen in Inner Deep Bay Ramsar
Post by Richard_Lewthwaite on Mar 22^nd, 2004, 10:10am

While taking part in the monthly waterbird count yesterday morning (Sun 21st March) from the Tsim Bei Tsui jetty which gives best views over sections C, D and E, I was concerned by how few waterbirds were present. My count totalled only about 380 birds of 8 species. Most were ardeids. Four Teal were the only duck, there were no Avocets or gulls. This compares with previous years in March when I recall there were still thousands of ducks & gulls present.

In Section D, which in past years typically held large flocks of duck and roosting egrets, there were just 11 waterbirds, all ardeids. But there were also long lines of stake nets, three small fishing boats and at least 9 fishermen standing in the water fairly close to the shore.

A marine police boat arrived and tied up against the jetty. Here is the gist of a conversation I had. Me: "Excuse me. Is this Hong Kong or China?" Marine policeman: "Hong Kong". Me: "Do those guys in the water in Hong Kong have HK ID cards?" Marine policeman: "Yes, of course". Me in disbelief: "And the boats? They have Chinese characters on the sides." Marine policeman: "Yes, they're from Hong Kong."

So, either the information given by the marine policeman was incorrect, or these fishermen do indeed have HK ID cards and their boats are indeed licensed to be in HK waters. If the latter is the case, are permits needed to engage in fishing activities in the Inner Deep Bay Ramsar site and/or to bring in a boat ? If so, how many permits have been issued, and to what kind of people? Perhaps AFCD staff could enlighten us.

It's obvious these fishermen are posing a serious problem, by disturbing the wintering flocks which are now rarely seen close to the boardwalk and have departed early.

Richard

Title: Re: Disturbance by fishermen in Inner Deep Bay Ram
Post by isaac_chan on Mar 22^nd, 2004, 1:08pm

On March 20, while I was standing near the parking area on Tsim Bei Tsui, I also saw someone walked through the mangrove to the shore. Then he walked to the posts and set up certain kind of net on the sea.

I believe that the area he stood on is within Ramsar area, but I just won't know what to do to this. I could only just photographed that man, and the fishing boat(s) on the Deep bay.

Title: Re: Disturbance by fishermen in Inner Deep Bay Ram
Post by bjingbar on Mar 22^nd, 2004, 6:57pm

If you publish your photos of the "illegal" activities on these web pages I am sure that a government department will take action.

I believe that this BBS is monitored by most of the HK newspapers

Title: Re: Disturbance by fishermen in Inner Deep Bay Ram
Post by isaac_chan on Mar 22^nd, 2004, 7:48pm

OK. I will select few of the photos and post them later tonight or tomorrow morning.

Title: Re: Disturbance by fishermen in Inner Deep Bay Ram
Post by KK Hui on Mar 22^nd, 2004, 8:57pm

I too was surprised and sadened to see so few waterbirds at the boardwalk hides the past few days. Not a single Avocet or gull was in sight today! This is a bad sign indicating something is wrong ... :'( :'( :'(

KK Hui ARPS
www.geocities.com/kkhui_001

Title: Re: Disturbance by fishermen in Inner Deep Bay Ram
Post by Hendrix on Mar 23^rd, 2004, 1:13am

http://look.com.hk/wings/other/005.jpg

http://look.com.hk/wings/other/006.jpg

>:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:(

Title: Re: Disturbance by fishermen in Inner Deep Bay Ram
Post by isaac_chan on Mar 23^rd, 2004, 1:26pm

Tsim Bei Tsui 尖鼻咀
20/3/2004
D100 + Sigma 120-300mm + 2x

Someone was walking through the mangrove. >:(
http://www.dcview.com/my/showpic.asp?albumsn=18432&nickname=isaac_chan&picsn=217753

Walked to the shore, then setup a net (?) on a post. >:(
http://www.dcview.com/my/showpic.asp?albumsn=18432&nickname=isaac_chan&picsn=217757

Walked along.... >:(
http://www.dcview.com/my/showpic.asp?albumsn=18432&nickname=isaac_chan&picsn=217758

Walked along to another post.... >:(
http://www.dcview.com/my/showpic.asp?albumsn=18432&nickname=isaac_chan&picsn=217762

Continue to setup the net. >:(
http://www.dcview.com/my/showpic.asp?albumsn=18432&nickname=isaac_chan&picsn=217765

Wider view of the man and the furthest post.
http://www.dcview.com/my/showpic.asp?albumsn=18432&nickname=isaac_chan&picsn=217766

One fishing boat.
http://www.dcview.com/my/showpic.asp?albumsn=18432&nickname=isaac_chan&picsn=217763

Another fishing boat
http://www.dcview.com/my/showpic.asp?albumsn=18432&nickname=isaac_chan&picsn=217764

Title: Re: Disturbance by fishermen in Inner Deep Bay Ram
Post by isaac_chan on Mar 23^rd, 2004, 1:38pm

Other photos I took last month at the bridge. These shows clear footprints on the river bed, walked towards the Wetland Park. >:( >:( >:( >:(

Tsim Bei Tsui 尖鼻咀
21/2/2004
CP5000

http://nature.kl.edu.tw/attachment.php?s=&postid=89756
http://nature.kl.edu.tw/attachment.php?s=&postid=89757

Title: Re: Disturbance by fishermen in Inner Deep Bay Ram
Post by Owlet-nightjar on Mar 23^rd, 2004, 7:36pm

Shall we have a photo competition on this topic ? !

http://www.hkbws.org.hk/fileServer/PhotoG/owlet-nightjar/040307tbt1.jpg
Tsim Bei Tsui
07/3/04

http://www.hkbws.org.hk/fileServer/PhotoG/owlet-nightjar/040307tbt2.jpg
Tsim Bei Tsui
07/3/04

http://www.hkbws.org.hk/fileServer/PhotoG/owlet-nightjar/040307tbt3.jpg
Tsim Bei Tsui
07/3/04
:-/

Title: Re: Disturbance by fishermen in Inner Deep Bay Ram
Post by KK Hui on Mar 27^th, 2004, 2:27pm

http://img5.photobucket.com/albums/v22/kkhui/Avian/260304_08x.jpg

Deep Bay
26/03/2004

The above photo was taken yesterday morning. Yes, the authorities have taken notice and took some actions to combat the problem! ;D :o ;D

EOS-10D, EF500/4L IS + EF1.4x
Evaluative @ -1/3, ISO 400

KK Hui ARPS
www.geocities/kkhui_001

Title: Re: Disturbance by fishermen in Inner Deep Bay Ram
Post by Lynx on Apr 12^th, 2004, 12:08pm

They were seen again on 11 Apr 2004 >:(
http://www.9014316.com/action/254_5435_RJ.JPG

Title: Re: Disturbance by fishermen in Inner Deep Bay Ram
Post by Owen on Apr 12^th, 2004, 3:38pm

if this is not their uniform. I think she is the same person @ Mar 20, 2004 :

http://www.pbase.com/image/27863678.jpg

Title: Re: Disturbance by fishermen in Inner Deep Bay Ram
Post by Keith on Apr 12^th, 2004, 11:44pm

I really don't understand the situation ???

It appears to me that the fishing is just a very low profit and piecemeal operation. The gang of fishermen are not organized and just consist of several individuals? Bu selling those fish alone, I think their income is less than RMB1000 per month.

Why not arrest them and send them to prison or sentence them for heavy fines? I think this would sufficiently deter them to operate again? It appears to me that currently, if they were arrested, they were released to Shenzhen side immediately without punishment. But illegal fishing in HK territory is different from illegal immigrants. They are operating business instead of merely just crossing the border.

Title: Re: Disturbance by fishermen in Inner Deep Bay Ram
Post by Hendrix on Apr 12^th, 2004, 11:52pm

a lot people got less RMB 500 per month in ShenZhen :-/

Title: Re: Disturbance by fishermen in Inner Deep Bay Ram
Post by KK Hui on May 10^th, 2004, 9:08pm

Yet again ... ::) :o ::)

This morning, 10 May 2004 ... this human peilcan was just 300 ft away from the boardwalk hides.

http://img5.photobucket.com/albums/v22/kkhui/100504_01x.jpg
http://img5.photobucket.com/albums/v22/kkhui/100504_03x.jpg
http://img5.photobucket.com/albums/v22/kkhui/100504_04x.jpg

Title: Re: Disturbance by fishermen in Inner Deep Bay Ram
Post by Owen on May 10^th, 2004, 9:17pm

300ft? u are lucky, last time pass thru right infront of the BH. not far than 6ft.

Title: Action taken by WWFHK
Post by Forrest FONG on May 11^th, 2004, 11:53pm

As informed by WWFHK, their staff once again went out on the Deep Bay mudflats this morning and removed about 200 mudskipper traps that had been set by the four fishermen that were seen operating.

Their staff also saw a sanpan with outboard parked on the edge of the mudflat which looked as if it had delivered the fishermen over from Shenzhen onto
the Hong Kong side of the mudflat to work.

WWFHK requested AFCD and the Marine Police to arrange some joint action against these fishermen as soon as possible. It should be possible to confiscate this sanpan if a joint operation could be launched between AFCD and Marine Police, with one boat (or hovercraft) coming out from the Shenzhen River and the other from Tsim Bei Tsui to intercept the sanpan in the middle of the Bay. This kind of joint action has been tried successfully in the past.

The number of waterbirds in Deep Bay have been lower this winter is suspected as being due to the frequent disturbance by fishermen and their activities out on the Bay.