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(Message started by: Forrest FONG on Apr 10th, 2005, 12:58am)
Title: Mudskipper collectors in Deep Bay "ªá³½¨Ð"¦A²{ÂZ¶Ã
Post by Forrest FONG on Apr 10th, 2005, 12:58am
A member reported to us that at about 2 pm on 27 February 2005 (Sunday) two mudskipper collectors came out of the mangroves close to the Mai Po boardwalk hides and flushed the entire congegation of 10,000-15,000 waterbirds including 15 Dalmatian Pelicans from the mudflats.

Let's hope AFCD take action promptly so that Deep Bay can be kept free of these unwelcome people.

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Title: Re: Mudskipper collectors in Deep Bay "ªá³½¨Ð"¦A²{
Post by Forrest FONG on Apr 10th, 2005, 1:13am
In the morning on 09/4/2005 just before the high tide coming, a mudskipper was seen skaking across the mudflat right in front of the boardwalk hide . >:( >:( >:(

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Title: Re: Mudskipper collectors in Deep Bay "ªá³½¨Ð"¦A²{
Post by ²`ÂÅ Owen on Apr 10th, 2005, 11:28am
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Title: Re: Mudskipper collectors in Deep Bay "ªá³½¨Ð"¦A²{
Post by Forrest FONG on Apr 10th, 2005, 11:25pm
At least 3 mudskipper collectors were appeared at the mudflat before and after the high tide today. >:(

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Title: Re: Mudskipper collectors in Deep Bay "ªá³½¨Ð"¦A²{
Post by Forrest FONG on Apr 11th, 2005, 9:42pm
In this morning (11/4/2005) just before the tide arrived, at least two Mudskipper Collectors were seen at the mudflat just in front of the boardwalk hide. >:(

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Title: Re: Mudskipper collectors in Deep Bay "ªá³½¨Ð"¦A²{
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Title: Re: Mudskipper collectors in Deep Bay "ªá³½¨Ð"¦A²{
Post by ²`ÂÅ Owen on Apr 11th, 2005, 10:52pm
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Title: Re: Mudskipper collectors in Deep Bay "ªá³½¨Ð"¦A²{
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Title: Re: Mudskipper collectors in Deep Bay "ªá³½¨Ð"¦A²{
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Title: Re: Mudskipper collectors in Deep Bay "ªá³½¨Ð"¦A²{
Post by Sze on Apr 12th, 2005, 11:52pm

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Title: Re: Mudskipper collectors in Deep Bay "ªá³½¨Ð"¦A²{
Post by Webcreeper on Apr 13th, 2005, 12:06am
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on 03/20/04 at 22:36:24, bjingbar wrote:
Owen,

I am sure that somebody from either AFCD or WWF will respond to you with the phone numbers to call, if you see these illegal immigrants catching mudskippers again.

I beleive the telephone number of the AFCD Warden Post at Mai Po is 24714411. The Lok Ma Chau Police Report Room telephone number is 26683123
Title: Re: Mudskipper collectors in Deep Bay "ªá³½¨Ð"¦A²{
Post by Forrest FONG on Apr 13th, 2005, 12:20am

on 04/12/05 at 16:01:05, Etta wrote:
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Title: Re: Mudskipper collectors in Deep Bay "ªá³½¨Ð"¦A²{
Post by Webcreeper on Apr 13th, 2005, 12:50am
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9/04

Mudskipper Collectors at MP mudflat again ªá³½¨Ð¦A²{ (http://www.hkbws.org.hk/cgi-bin/yabb/YaBB.pl?board=Conservation;action=display;num=1095525927;start=2)

Mudflat FULL of fishing nets AGAIN ªdÅy¤W³½ºô¦A²{ (http://www.hkbws.org.hk/cgi-bin/yabb/YaBB.pl?board=Conservation;action=display;num=1081451719;start=6)


3/04

Pallas' Gull and Mudskipper man (http://www.hkbws.org.hk/cgi-bin/yabb/YaBB.pl?board=Birdingtips;action=display;num=1087622890;start=0)

Disturbance by fishermen in Inner Deep Bay Ramsar (http://www.hkbws.org.hk/cgi-bin/yabb/YaBB.pl?board=Conservation;action=display;num=1079921442)

Mudskipper collect outside Mudflat BW house (MPNR) (http://www.hkbws.org.hk/cgi-bin/yabb/YaBB.pl?board=Conservation;action=display;num=1079777665)


2/04

The river underneath TBT bridge, restricted? (http://www.hkbws.org.hk/cgi-bin/yabb/YaBB.pl?board=Conservation;action=display;num=1079749580;start=0)


11/03

II fishing man from China in MPNR (http://www.hkbws.org.hk/cgi-bin/yabb/YaBB.pl?board=Conservation;action=display;num=1079749929)

Chinese Fishing Boats in Deep Bay (http://www.hkbws.org.hk/cgi-bin/yabb/YaBB.pl?board=Conservation;action=display;num=1068720589;start=0)



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Title: Re: Mudskipper collectors in Deep Bay "ªá³½¨Ð"¦A²{
Post by Etta on Apr 13th, 2005, 6:21pm

on 04/13/05 at 00:20:49, Forrest FONG wrote:
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on 09/19/04 at 00:45:05, Forrest FONG wrote:
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Title: Re: Mudskipper collectors in Deep Bay "ªá³½¨Ð"¦A²{
Post by Etta on Apr 13th, 2005, 6:27pm

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Title: Re: Mudskipper collectors in Deep Bay "ªá³½¨Ð"¦A²{
Post by KK Hui on Apr 13th, 2005, 7:34pm
For the past weeks the mudskipper collectors are spotted almost daily outside the boardwalk hides early in the morning before the high tide sets in ...  

It's up to the law reinforcement authorities to act proactively if they think appropriate. Reporting to the police by people using the hides is just one way and is a rather passive approach. Remember mobile phone coverage or the lack of it in those hides is the key problem. Not all mobile users have roaming service anyway.

What about having a wireless hotline installed in the boardwalk hide of both locations?!

KK Hui ARPS
www.geocities.com/kkhui_001
Title: Re: Mudskipper collectors in Deep Bay "ªá³½¨Ð"¦A²{
Post by ²`ÂÅ Owen on Apr 13th, 2005, 7:49pm
I think "wireless hotline installed" is impossible lah.
they will come and "collect" at night if they found something look "valuable" for them.

u may see from the footprint, they always come to BH for rest or something else we don't know. may be at night or may be daytime while no people out there...
Title: Re: Mudskipper collectors in Deep Bay "ªá³½¨Ð"¦A²{
Post by Forrest FONG on Apr 13th, 2005, 9:38pm
Yes! I agree with KK that reporting to the police when we see them is a very passive way. In fact, the police and the AFCD already know the appearance of mudskipper collectors at the mudflat very well. If you are at the Tsm Bei Tsui jetty, you will see all the activities and movement of the Mudskipper Collectors very clearly.

Whether the problem can be solved is solely depending on the law enforcement authority to act proactively.
Title: Re: Mudskipper collectors in Deep Bay "ªá³½¨Ð"¦A²{
Post by bjingbar on Apr 14th, 2005, 7:26am
Remember also, that you can't call 999 when your mobile phone has roamed to the mainland.

You need to call a Police Report Room number or AFCD number.

I am sure that somebody can list out all these phone numbers again
Title: Re: Mudskipper collectors in Deep Bay "ªá³½¨Ð"¦A²{
Post by KK Hui on Apr 14th, 2005, 7:34am
It's totally a shame to see such frequent mudskipper collecting activities in a place like Mai Po Nature Reserve where it is internationally known as a Ramsar Site!  :'( :'( :'(

Failing to stop this illegal activity quickly could damage our reputation as an environmental conservation protector in the long term no doubt ...

KK Hui ARPS
www.geocities.com/kkhui_001
Title: Re: Mudskipper collectors in Deep Bay "ªá³½¨Ð"¦A²{
Post by bjingbar on Apr 14th, 2005, 7:34am
Its funny how they go with police dogs to catch II's at Wetland Park  (according to yesterday's newpaper).

But with the illegal mudskipper fishermen at Mai Po, very little is done to prevent them
Title: Re: Mudskipper collectors in Deep Bay "ªá³½¨Ð"¦A²{
Post by Mike Kilburn on Apr 14th, 2005, 9:36am
Yesterday (April 13th at around 0945am) I saw the same woman who has been photographed this week collecting mudskippers, washing her traps, and then hiding them in the mangroves close to the Cathay Hide.  

Since she is there every day why not send an AFCD warden to sit in the hide and watch where she hides the traps and then go to confiscate them, or even send the police too, to catch her.

The public has done its part to inform the Administration about a persistent problem. When will the Administration use its authority and resources to address it?

Mike Kilburn
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Title: Re: Mudskipper collectors in Deep Bay "ªá³½¨Ð"¦A²{
Post by bfspoonbill on Apr 15th, 2005, 1:00pm
Let me repeat the answers from AFCD staff through report hotline some months ago:-

- There is already regular (scheduled) patrol.
- It's useless to send staffs there now (immediately). Mudskipper will go away after hearing the noise of the engine.
- We shall keep eyes on this during the regular patrol.

The last sentence from earpiece was "bye bye".
Title: Re: Mudskipper collectors in Deep Bay "ªá³½¨Ð"¦A²{
Post by ²`ÂÅ Owen on Apr 15th, 2005, 1:01pm
shame~!
Title: Re: Mudskipper collectors in Deep Bay "ªá³½¨Ð"¦A²{
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Title: Re: Mudskipper collectors in Deep Bay "ªá³½¨Ð"¦A²{
Post by KK Hui on Apr 21st, 2005, 1:48pm

on 04/21/05 at 12:57:33, ArcticTern wrote:
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The law is already in placed ...
It was clearly stated in WWF HK's web site that "The Mai Po Nature Reserve is a restricted area. Entrance without prior permission from the related Hong Kong SAR Government authorities as well as WWF Hong Kong is strictly prohibited and may lead to your arrest and possible prosecution by Hong Kong SAR government officials."

It's a matter of enforcement by the authorities concerned. There is absolutely no excuse!!! ;D

KK Hui ARPS
www.geocities.com/kkhui_001
Title: Re: Mudskipper collectors in Deep Bay "ªá³½¨Ð"¦A²{
Post by ²`ÂÅ Owen on Apr 21st, 2005, 2:42pm
I'm planning to source a way to take that mudskipper board from SZ.  I guess it won't costs too much and no concern of arrest or anything can get really close to the birds and somewhere we never explore..

so one day u bird watch outside and find a mudsikpper face look familar, don't be surprise and remember take some good photo for me..!!! thanks in advance.. ;D
Title: Re: Mudskipper collectors in Deep Bay "ªá³½¨Ð"¦A²{
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Title: Re: Mudskipper collectors in Deep Bay "ªá³½¨Ð"¦A²{
Post by Bena on Apr 21st, 2005, 5:23pm
Dear HKBWS Members,

WWF HK will be placing a notice and recording notebook in the hides next week with specific reference to the mudskipper problem. In advance of posting the notice I include a section from it that relates to the correct phone numbers for reporting. Please make a note of these numbers or store them in your mobile phone memory.

Report Illegal activities to: -

(1) the border Police at 2471 4889 (Lok Ma Chau Report Room) or 2471 3422 (Lok Ma Chau Police Post) and

(2) AFCD Nature Warden Post at 2471-4411 or in person at the AFCD warden post.


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Thank you,

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Title: Re: Mudskipper collectors in Deep Bay "ªá³½¨Ð"¦A²{
Post by ArcticTern on Apr 22nd, 2005, 9:57am
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Title: Re: Mudskipper collectors in Deep Bay "ªá³½¨Ð"¦A²{
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Title: Re: Mudskipper collectors in Deep Bay "ªá³½¨Ð"¦A²{
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Title: Re: Mudskipper collectors in Deep Bay "ªá³½¨Ð"¦A²{
Post by Webcreeper on May 1st, 2005, 10:26pm
§Ú­Ì¬O§_À³¸Ó¦V ¨ä¥L¤H (http://www.ombudsman.gov.hk/chinese/03_ordinance/01_preliminary.html) ³ø§i©O¡H

Perhaps it's time to direct our reports elsewhere (http://www.ombudsman.gov.hk/english/03_ordinance/01_preliminary.html).

:-/
Title: Re: Mudskipper collectors in Deep Bay "ªá³½¨Ð"¦A²{
Post by Hendrix on May 1st, 2005, 11:22pm
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Title: Re: Mudskipper collectors in Deep Bay "ªá³½¨Ð"¦A²{
Post by Peter on May 2nd, 2005, 11:11am
I am a bird watcher from Taiwan who visits Mai Po and other Hong Kong bird sites on a regular basis. You are indeed very fortuitous to have the number of good sites in such a small and heavily populated area. Without doubt, the jewel of Hong Kong's crown is the Ramsar site and birders from all over the world know about it.

I understand shorebird numbers dropped dramatically last year and there is an overall declining trend in the longer term.

It is therefore imperative that every conceivable effort should be made to protect the site. Disturbance is one of the easier threats to address, more so than external pollution or other problems in other countries in the flyway or wintering grounds. The mud skipper collectors are undoubtedly causing disturbance and do not forget, taking wildlife from a protected site that would otherwise be available to other wildlife higher up the food chain. There is a knock-on effect which is overlooked.

I believe it comes down to one simple fact that the Hong Kong government is not serious enough about the protection of wildlife in the Ramsar site. It is a question of priorities and obviously the government ranks this issue low down. The truth is that if the government wanted to catch the mudskippers and other illegal fishermen they could do it right now by having a permanent presence on the mudflats. All it would take is a hovercraft to patrol daily at the right time before high tide or even just station itself at the back of the mudflats so that the collectors could see it there waiting. A stationary hovercraft would not frighten the birds if it remained there and the operators kept still. It is simply a matter of assigning the appropriate resources.

I urge the Hong Kong government to commit itself more to the protection of the Ramsar site. The Country Parks are very good and well run and I ask that the same effort and resources be given to the Ramsar site which is a far more biologically diverse area of land.


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Title: Re: Mudskipper collectors in Deep Bay "ªá³½¨Ð"¦A²{
Post by little_dolphin on May 2nd, 2005, 5:03pm

on 05/01/05 at 22:26:23, Webcreeper wrote:
Perhaps it's time to direct our reports elsewhere (http://www.ombudsman.gov.hk/english/03_ordinance/01_preliminary.html).
:-/


I agree that we should report or complain to other government agencies if the Mai Po AFCD Office is still reluctant to tackle the mudskipper collector problem.

Perhaps we can give the AFCD one FINAL chance by writing directly to the Director of the AFCD before complaining to the Ombudsman?

It is absolutely disappointing that the bureaucracy of our government is hindering its own efforts in wildlife conservation. >:(
Title: Re: Mudskipper collectors in Deep Bay "ªá³½¨Ð"¦A²{
Post by me_domchan on May 2nd, 2005, 11:44pm
Do remember that AFCD purchased several hovercrafts for mudflat patrol...........

May be we can also report to Audit Commission and ask them to check if the purchase of hovercrafts are justified or not.   :)
Title: Re: Mudskipper collectors in Deep Bay "ªá³½¨Ð"¦A²{
Post by Bena on May 3rd, 2005, 6:01pm
Dear HKBWS members,

Today (5th May) six WWF staff spent the morning clearing mud skipper traps from the area in front of the floating bird-watching hides. We confiscated over 250 traps (see photo) from three mudskipper collectors. Staff also managed to find one of their access routes across the deeper water channels and subsequently destroyed a large polystyrene float and inflated rubber ring.

WWF staff will continue to undertake these operations in a bid to tackle the ongoing mudskipper disturbance problem.

Thank you,

Bena Smith
Reserve Officer


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Title: Re: Mudskipper collectors in Deep Bay "ªá³½¨Ð"¦A²{
Post by Webcreeper on May 3rd, 2005, 8:17pm
Thanks WWF for taking the action! Please keep up with the good work - don't let mudskipper collectors appear at the mudflat again.


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Title: Re: Mudskipper collectors in Deep Bay "ªá³½¨Ð"¦A²{
Post by ²`ÂÅ Owen on May 3rd, 2005, 8:35pm
¦n.. !! thanks~~!!
Title: Re: Mudskipper collectors in Deep Bay "ªá³½¨Ð"¦A²{
Post by Sze on May 3rd, 2005, 8:42pm

on 05/03/05 at 18:01:48, Bena wrote:
Dear HKBWS members,

Today (5th May) six WWF staff spent the morning clearing mud skipper traps from the area in front of the floating bird-watching hides. We confiscated over 250 traps (see photo) from three mudskipper collectors. Staff also managed to find one of their access routes across the deeper water channels and subsequently destroyed a large polystyrene float and inflated rubber ring.

WWF staff will continue to undertake these operations in a bid to tackle the ongoing mudskipper disturbance problem.

Thank you,

Bena Smith
Reserve Officer


Well Done!
Thanks a lot! Thank you so much! :) :) :)
Title: Re: Mudskipper collectors in Deep Bay "ªá³½¨Ð"¦A²{
Post by Hendrix on May 3rd, 2005, 8:47pm
thanks , but why not arrest them ?
Title: Re: Mudskipper collectors in Deep Bay "ªá³½¨Ð"¦A²{
Post by ²`ÂÅ Owen on May 3rd, 2005, 8:49pm
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Title: Re: Mudskipper collectors in Deep Bay "ªá³½¨Ð"¦A²{
Post by Hendrix on May 3rd, 2005, 10:00pm
they can "call" police as I can , right ? ::)

and police said "­nº®¹A³B°t¦X¡A©M¥Îº®¹A³Bªº®ð¹Ô²î¤~¦n¦æ°Ê¡A»¡·|ºÉ§Ö¦æ°Ê"
Title: Re: Mudskipper collectors in Deep Bay "ªá³½¨Ð"¦A²{
Post by little_dolphin on May 5th, 2005, 11:56pm
Over 250 traps confisticated... :o Never thought the mudskipper collectors were so rampant.

Well done, WWF! Keep up the good work! :)
Title: Re: Mudskipper collectors in Deep Bay "ªá³½¨Ð"¦A²{
Post by birdwatcher on May 8th, 2005, 11:03am

on 05/03/05 at 22:00:41, Hendrix wrote:
they can "call" police as I can , right ? ::)

and police said "­nº®¹A³B°t¦X¡A©M¥Îº®¹A³Bªº®ð¹Ô²î¤~¦n¦æ°Ê¡A»¡·|ºÉ§Ö¦æ°Ê"


What action had AFCD taken? During all my visits to Mai Po, they stayed in their air conditioned post!
Title: Re: Mudskipper collectors in Deep Bay "ªá³½¨Ð"¦A²{
Post by little_dolphin on May 8th, 2005, 11:30am

on 05/08/05 at 11:03:26, birdwatcher wrote:
What action had AFCD taken? During all my visits to Mai Po, they stayed in their air conditioned post!


That's why I suggested writing to the Director of the AFCD and Webcreeper suggested complaining to the Ombudsman. ::)
Title: Re: Mudskipper collectors in Deep Bay "ªá³½¨Ð"¦A²{
Post by ²`ÂÅ Owen on May 8th, 2005, 1:07pm
¦³ÉN¤H¥i¥H³ø§i¤U¦Û D trap ³Q WWF ¨S¦¬«áªº³Ìªñªá³½¨Ð¬¡°Ê±¡ªp§r? Thanks..
Title: Re: Mudskipper collectors in Deep Bay "ªá³½¨Ð"¦A²{
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Title: Re: Mudskipper collectors in Deep Bay "ªá³½¨Ð"¦A²{
Post by Hendrix on May 8th, 2005, 4:51pm

on 05/08/05 at 13:07:44, ²`ÂÅ Owen wrote:
¦³ÉN¤H¥i¥H³ø§i¤U¦Û D trap ³Q WWF ¨S¦¬«áªº³Ìªñªá³½¨Ð¬¡°Ê±¡ªp§r? Thanks..


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Title: Re: Mudskipper collectors in Deep Bay "ªá³½¨Ð"¦A²{
Post by kumanfai on May 16th, 2005, 12:29am
I share the concern about the mudskipper collectors.  I see that the discussion has discontinued in the recent week.  Is that because fewer birders are visting the bird hides when there are less shorebirds now?
Title: Re: Mudskipper collectors in Deep Bay "ªá³½¨Ð"¦A²{
Post by Captain on May 20th, 2005, 4:35pm
I shared your feeling.

The problem could go back to the mid 1990s and even  a longer time ago.

At that time, a lot of complaints were made to then AFD about the same mudskipper collection problem - Why there is no patrol on the mudflats?

Later, it is noted that they did some patrols in the weekdays only.

Why? They received complaints from birdwatchers when they patrolled  the site on weekends - simply because the patrol disturbed the birds and so birdwatchers get nothing from the mudflats.

That may explain why you can't see any patrol during Saturday and Sunday.

Regarding the effectiveness of the patrol, I still remember that both AFCD and the Police were poorly equipped at that time. The Police told me they could do nothing as they can't walk across the mudflat.

For AFCD, the hovercraft came to the service around 1998. That's good because they only use mudscooters before (hope my memory is correct).

Using mudscooters is easy only if the mud surface is wet. In hot summer low tide, the mud surface in front of the board walk is dry out and you can't use the mudscooters. So, the hovercraft could solve this problem.  

I think it is good to keep posting any observations of mudskipper collectors here. Tones of reports and letters can help the world change.

Captain

P.S. The collectors suddenly disappeared about half yr around 1997 for a very obvious reason.


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