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(Message started by: LUN on Jan 9th, 2006, 11:14pm)

Title: ¦y»ó©C°ï¶ñ  Dumping at Tsim Bei Tsui
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Title: Re: ¦y»ó©C°ï¶ñ
Post by Bob Thompson on Jan 10th, 2006, 8:10am
Lun, Where is this location in English, Thanks

Title: Re: ¦y»ó©C°ï¶ñ
Post by Mike Kilburn on Jan 10th, 2006, 9:31am
This is at Sha Kiu Village on Tsim Bei Tsui.

It is illegal to cut mangroves and to dump in a fishpond.  KFBG will investigate this afternoon and follow up  with the relevant government departments

Cheers
Mike K

Title: Re: ¦y»ó©C°ï¶ñ  Dumping at Tsim Bei Tsui
Post by Bob Thompson on Jan 10th, 2006, 1:24pm
Thanks Mike and again Thanks to KFBG for looking after the environment

Title: Re: ¦y»ó©C°ï¶ñ  Dumping at Tsim Bei Tsui
Post by Mike Kilburn on Jan 10th, 2006, 1:50pm
This case shows green groups can work together with the government to combat trashing of the environment:

1.  birders get to so many remote places which no group can hope to survey on a regular basis,
2. then the groups can use their knowledge to provide the most useful and accurate information to the right department
3. the government can then begin the legl enforcement process which the others cannot do.

the role of the BBS in passing this knowledge on, especially with photos,  and FAST is also a critical part of the process.

Pleas continue to report incidents as soon as you find them.

Cheers
Mike K

Conservation Committee Chairman & KFBG staff member

Title: Re: ¦y»ó©C°ï¶ñ  Dumping at Tsim Bei Tsui
Post by LUN on Jan 10th, 2006, 3:17pm
Thank you for  follow up this case

One important  thing is local people want to build other
"Mai PO " on their land to "education" and attract people (birds watcher) for making money.
I dont think their are wrong, but they seem to misunderstand what the birds watcher needs and fail to know how to develop their own land in a sustainable way.
And i think this is the mail problem of HK environment

Title: Re: ¦y»ó©C°ï¶ñ  Dumping at Tsim Bei Tsui
Post by kumanfai on Jan 10th, 2006, 7:36pm
They may have good intention even if it also includes some commercial elements to sustain the idea. Hopefully relevant authorities and environment groups can work out with them a win-win solution.  ::)

Title: Re: ¦y»ó©C°ï¶ñ  Dumping at Tsim Bei Tsui
Post by LUN on Jan 11th, 2006, 11:24pm
One more  dumping report:
Near KAM SHEUNG RD between LAI UK TSUEN and DAO UK TSUEN.  I saw it on the KMB, Route No.: 64K.

Title: Re: ¦y»ó©C°ï¶ñ  Dumping at Tsim Bei Tsui
Post by Mike Kilburn on Jan 12th, 2006, 9:58am
In respnse to kumanfai's comments about a win-win situation:

There can be no question of a "second Mai Po" or win-win when the people responsible for dumping are breaking the law. Villagers often use such excuses to hide the reality - they want to build more small houses or make space for open storage without seeking permission.

The site at Sha Kiu in  Tsim Bei Tsui is zoned as"Coastal Protection Area" and any dumping must have permission from the town planning board to change the zoning first.

Also it is not permitted to knock down mangroves or to dump construction and demolition waste, or to fill in a fish pond.

Another dumping site was found in the same area on Tuesday, but closer to Lau Fau Shan, where the dumping of constrcution waste was witnessed, but could not be stopped.

If you witness such incidents please try to get the number of the truck and record the exact time of the dumping.

It is sometimes possible to trace the waste to a construction site, and the site manager has responsibility for proper disposal of waste. If it is not being properly disposed the site engineer is responsible for failing to enforce the trip ticket system, which is supposed to control the dumping of construction waste.

KFBG will continue to monitor this issue very closely.


Title: Re: ¦y»ó©C°ï¶ñ  Dumping at Tsim Bei Tsui
Post by kumanfai on Jan 13th, 2006, 12:20am
Thanks to Mike for enlightening me and please excuse me for being naive in environmental protection regulations. :P I can understand what position to take now and will help to halt illegitimate dumping as briefed.

::)

Title: Re: ¦y»ó©C°ï¶ñ  Dumping at Tsim Bei Tsui
Post by Captain on Jan 24th, 2006, 4:49pm
Plan Dept's formal reply to an enquiry from KFBG revealed that an Enforcement Notice was issued to the person responsible on 14 Nov 2005.

A reinstatement notice (RN) was subsequently issued on 13 Dec 2005. Further prosecution action will be taken if they cannot comply the requirement of RN by 13 March 2006.

Regarding another similar case near Wan Fou Sin Koon (¶³¯B¥PÆ[), Lau Fau Shan, a warning letter was sent on 30 Dec 2005. As the pond filling work was continuing after sending the letter, an Enforcement Notice will be issued shortly.

So, Planning Dept is undertaking actions. Pls feel free to report any similar cases here in future.

Captain  

Title: Re: ¦y»ó©C°ï¶ñ  Dumping at Tsim Bei Tsui
Post by kumanfai on Jan 24th, 2006, 10:16pm
It will take one whole migration season to proceed to the prosecution stage.  Very slow though it is better than none.  >:(



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