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(Message started by: Bob on Oct 1^st, 2002, 10:32pm)

Title: new BBS
Post by Bob on Oct 1^st, 2002, 10:32pm

Is anybody else having problems using the new board.?? I have a Mac and using Explorer the board always crashes but Netscape is OK

Title: Re: new BBS
Post by Webmaster on Oct 1^st, 2002, 11:45pm

Bob, sorry to hear it. Since I don't currently own a Mac computer and can hardly test it though. be patient by now. will get back to you soon. again, sorry about it.

Title: Re: new BBS
Post by Eugene Yeung on Oct 2^nd, 2002, 3:04am

i also use mac, os 10.2
ie also crash with this bbs and netscape 7.0 that i am using is ok. ;)

Title: Re: new BBS
Post by Bob on Oct 6^th, 2002, 8:00am

Yes I can log on using Mac OS9.2 and Netscape 7.0 but as soon as I change pages in the BBS I find that I am no longer logged on as a member but as a guest.

Explorer just bombs as soon as I open the BBS

Title: Re: new BBS
Post by bfspoonbill on Oct 6^th, 2002, 9:15pm

I am not using Mac. So, I do not know what "crashes" you are talking about. I shall ask a friend to check.

But the returning to GUEST account may be due to "cookie" problem. Or, it may be a problem of expiry in "cookie" record. I'm not too familiar with YaBB (perl). Webmaster can help to find out.

Title: Re: new BBS
Post by bjingbar on Oct 6^th, 2002, 10:17pm

Thanks for your help

The problem with Netscape 7.0 was the cookie setting. "enable all cookies" must be selected, but the problem with Explorer is completely different as it will crash straight after clicking the BBS button

Title: Re: new BBS
Post by Karl on Oct 6^th, 2002, 11:16pm

Yes, YaBB use cookie to store some user information. For the crash issue, i guess it is related to some javascript and layer compatibility issue. I need somebody to help.

Title: Re: new BBS
Post by bfspoonbill on Oct 7^th, 2002, 6:50am

It's strange. If the HTML 4.01 and Javascript 1.2 cause problem, somebody report its working under MAC OS 9 but not OS 10. It is strange that higher version fails?!

Black-Faced SpoonBill

Title: Re: new BBS
Post by Eugene Yeung on Oct 7^th, 2002, 11:12am

Mac does have problems with some websites.
Concerning this bbs:
I use Mac OS 10.2 and have not tried to use 9.2 for this bbs.
Internal explorer 5.?12 just crashes when it opens the bbs.
Netscape 7.0 is working okay but I found that I could not see some old pictures in the photo gallery. It just did not seem to load them at all.

The ie on windows 2000 at my office is working fine.
Well Mac OS 10.x is basically unix, I don't know the underlying cause. ???

Title: Re: new BBS
Post by Webmaster on Oct 7^th, 2002, 1:40pm

Eugene,

thanks for ur info. I need your help and I i will prepare some pages for your Mac testing. Probably I would be able to isolate the problem in real soon. Will contact you once I am ready. Thanks!

Regards,
Webslave.

Title: Re: new BBS
Post by bfspoonbill on Oct 8^th, 2002, 10:00am

My friend also found failure with MAC OS X (10.1). The IE 5.2 software also exited with error in execution. He would ask his relative to try on 10.2. But his general comment about MAC OS X is "TERRIBLY BAD". MAC OS 9 is "quite stable" though. He had noticed "many" patches for MAC OS X and he is not going to track closely because it is wasting his precious time. In fact, he has re-installed the OS X again and again.

In addition, from Microsoft's newsgroup and MacTopia, the following was noticed:-

---> QUOTE (msnews.microsoft.com : microsoft.public.mac.explorer dd 04/10/02)
Two suggestions:
Try re-enabling JavaScript in the Preferences, by going to Explorer ->
Preferences. Go to Web Browser > Web Content. Under Active Content, check
"Enable Scripting".

You might also want to try downloading a copy of the latest Internet
Explorer, version 5.2.2 for OS X:
<http://www.microsoft.com/mac/DOWNLOAD/IE/ie5_osx.asp>

--
Mickey Stevens
Microsoft Mac MVP

The Entourage Help Page: <http://www.entourage.mvps.org/>

Please ask questions and reply within the newsgroup thread unless the reply
is off-topic or an e-mail reply is requested within my post.

On 10/3/02 7:30 AM, in article
cf46a240.0210030430.16ae36e3@posting.google.com, "Timothy Grayson"
<trdgrayson@hotmail.com> wrote:

> I've been having problems with certain applications and websites and
> have been told by the tech support and the webmasters that it is
> apparently a java script problem. Buttons and links simply don't
> work, or the menus that should appear when you mouse-over an active
> area don't work. Has anybody had this problem? Does anybody have a
> solution? I'm tiring of having to use my colleague's PC to do my
> expense reporting.
>
> Thanks
>
> TRDG
---> UNQUOTE

I'm not familiar with MAC OS. But it is apparent that there is problem in IE 5 under OS X. Javascript is probably one notorious example. It is also astonished to learn from other threads that Internet Preference may corrupted on OS 10.1.5 plus IE 5.2.2. The Microsoft MAC MVP asked MAC users to be prepared to setting account preferences again.

Good luck!

ps : Sorry to interrupt your discussions. But I am interested in .....

Title: Re: new BBS
Post by stanley chan on Oct 8^th, 2002, 3:24pm

on 10/01/02 at 22:32:36, Bob wrote:

Is anybody else having problems using the new board.?? I have a Mac and using Explorer the board always crashes but  Netscape is OK

I have the same problems with my Mac G4 IE5.0, by the way. The Interface of the BBS is not user friendly, I prefer thr old days.

Title: Re: new BBS
Post by bfspoonbill on Oct 9^th, 2002, 9:11am

GOOD NEWS!!!

My friend did not encounter problem in viewing this board after updating IE to 5.2.2 yesterday night, even on the same Mac OS 10.1 platform.

Please try to download the update from the captioned link.

Good luck!

BTW, did webmaster (NOT webslave!) do something to the PERL script to resolve the problem yesterday? Or is it merely a bug in Mac IE with version lower than 5.2.2?

Title: Re: new BBS
Post by bjingbar on Oct 9^th, 2002, 9:56pm

GOOD NEWS

All seems to be OK on Mac now, I am using OS 9.2 and IE 5.1. but you MUST have the preferences set to accept cookies otherwise it will crash.

Thanks Webmaster for fixing it

Bob

Title: Re: new BBS
Post by bfspoonbill on Oct 9^th, 2002, 11:42pm

Great! Congratulation!

But I, non-Mac user, still do not understand why IE 5.X crashes if cookie is not enabled. Then, how can those guys browse this web board if he/she disables the cookie feature for security concern?

Anyway, this is beyond the scope of this bird watching discussion board.

Webmaster / Webslave has done a great job. More people can share the bird watching and environment preservation experience now.

Oh! Should there be a warning message in the entry page for Mac user?

Title: Re: new BBS
Post by Bob on Oct 10^th, 2002, 7:19am

OH, I spoke to soon. This morning IE 5.1 on Mac is crashing again. It is rock steady on all other web sites.

It looks as though I will have to continue to use Netscape 7.0 but I can only post as a guest

Bob

Title: Re: new BBS
Post by bfspoonbill on Oct 10^th, 2002, 10:46pm

It's me the non-Mac user again. There are many complaints about IE 5.X in Mac OS 8.X/9.X/10.X in the Microsoft Mac newsgroup on 3/10/2002. Java execution, cookie registering, and mouse button cliking problems were reported even for 5.2.2.

Title: Re: new BBS
Post by Webmaster on Oct 13^th, 2002, 12:36am

Bob, Eugene and other Mac users,

I have modified some codes and would you please help to check if the same problem persists with your Mac+IE Explorer combo? I apologize for all the inconveniences caused.

Regards,
Webslave. :-[

Title: Re: new BBS
Post by YIP Chi Lap [Beta] on Oct 13^th, 2002, 1:53am

To bfspoonbill's friend: getting all those OS updates from the Apple site is important. Sure there are too many OS updates to get but, from my experience, it solves at least some problems.

Title: Re: new BBS
Post by bjingbar on Oct 13^th, 2002, 7:50am

THANK YOU very much, today I was able to use IE 5.1 and Mac OS 9.2.2 without any problems. What ever you did Karl has solved the Mac problem

Bob :) :) :)

Title: Re: new BBS
Post by Webmaster on Oct 14^th, 2002, 11:02pm

Bob, Eugene and bfspoonbill
Thanks so much for your testing on the BBS from time to time. I, on behalf of HKBWS, would like to thank all of your efforts in bringing HKBWS BBS to other Mac users.

Regards,
Webslave. :-*