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Title: Ask for binocular suggestion... 雙筒問題 Post by schindler on Sep 9th, 2004, 2:53pm After reading the website of Eddy Kwong (http://www.geocities.com/binocritics/index.htm), I'm considering the following bionculars: 1.) Nikon 10X42 SE 2.) Canon 10X30 IS In term of bird watching, which one do you prefer? And how much...? Or would you have another suggestion? Looking for your kindly help :) Thanks!!! |
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Title: Re: Ask for binocular suggestion... Post by Albert on Sep 9th, 2004, 4:09pm Both are no good as no birder is using them as far as I know. Buying a binocular is rather tricky as binoculars comes in different config. and the cost range from a few hundred to several thousand. May be you can join activities organised by the society and I am sure other birders will allow you to try on their binoculars. Then you can make your own decision. |
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Title: Re: Ask for binocular suggestion... Post by KK Hui on Sep 9th, 2004, 5:39pm I use the Nikon 10x42 Premier SE for birding which is optically superb and light in weight. In fact the Premier SE series, previously known as Superior E, are Nikon's ultimate birding porro prism binoculars. Each and every facet of manufacturing is done with the criteria of optical quality rather than a price point mindset, and the result is an 10x42 binocular so spectacularly bright you'll have to see it to believe it. More info at ... http://www.optics4birding.com/item.aspx?cid=62 The other popular one for birding is the Leica 10x42 BN which is nitrogen gas filled and water-proof. Heavier than the Nikon SE but is also a good choice if your budget allows. KK Hui ARPS www.geocities.com/kkhui_001 |
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Title: Re: Ask for binocular suggestion... Post by me_domchan on Sep 9th, 2004, 8:40pm Forget about the 10X30 IS from canon it is way too dim! Get the Nikon. May I share my view for a pair of high quality budget binoculars here, if you dun mind. I got a Nikon Sporter I 8x36 becasue of budget constraint. It is very bright, chormatic abberation is minimal, but the color may not be too accurate. Price is cheap (around $1000) http://nikon.topica.ne.jp/bi_e/products/standard.htm Also, the Olympus 10X42 EXWP I may be a good choice too. It is nitrogen filled. And the price tag is 1.5k or something as I remembered. |
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Title: Re: Ask for binocular suggestion... Post by schindler on Sep 9th, 2004, 10:48pm Thanks all! ;D ;D ;D It seems that for bird watching, Nikon and Olympus are more suitable and affordable. Now I'm wondering Olympus Magellan EXWP I 10x42, as it provides better optics and more durable in bad weather, anyone tried it before? |
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Title: Re: Ask for binocular suggestion... Post by me_domchan on Sep 9th, 2004, 10:54pm on 09/09/04 at 22:48:06, schindler wrote:
Leica is among the best if you are willing to afford. HE..he.. For binoculars, I think you must go and try different models by yourself and see which works best for you! ;) |
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Title: Re: Ask for binocular suggestion... Post by Forrest FONG on Sep 9th, 2004, 10:59pm Hi schindler, You can find some tips of choosing binoculars in the FAQ2. http://www.hkbws.org.hk/cgi-bin/yabb/YaBB.pl?board=Discussion;action=display;num=1079749244 Leica has two new model of binoculars (BR & BL) which are less 10 ~ 15% in weight but they are about $10k each. |
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Title: Re: Ask for binocular suggestion... Post by schindler on Sep 9th, 2004, 11:45pm Hi me_domnchan & Forrest, Sure I've tried such master-class binoculars, these scopes just make me feel that I'm in front of the distant object without any glass inbetween, more 3D than reality... that's why they are very expensive. Also from the picture in the "The photographic guide to the birds of Hong Kong", everyone holding Swarovski or Leica binocular. .. But I've invested much in the new lens ($7.5K), so I'd better buy a 'cheap' binocular ;D and also I have had a telescope (Celestron Nexstar 80GT). I think after purchasing the binocular, I should be a well-equipped bird-watcher :) ;D :D |
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Title: Re: Ask for binocular suggestion... Post by schindler on Sep 9th, 2004, 11:52pm Just one more question: Today I will have a holiday and I may buy one if the price don't exceed my budget... except Citicall, Wing Shing, Mah Shing, TST Tung Ying, Stantly street... anywhere else? Or which shops do you suggest...? :-/ |
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Title: Re: Ask for binocular suggestion... Post by me_domchan on Sep 9th, 2004, 11:56pm on 09/09/04 at 23:52:45, schindler wrote:
Kowloon Life 九龍生活 has quite a lot of binoculars. :D 九龍油麻地吳淞街 5 號地下 Try take a look at the Nikon Sporter I 8X36....he..he.. |
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Title: Re: Ask for binocular suggestion... Post by Betty on Sep 10th, 2004, 8:08am My daughter Carmen is using Olympus 8x42 EXWP I 8x42 , waterproof, field 6.3. price was HK$1480. weight 650 gm. relative brightness 28. With a budget in mind, this is a model that meets a birder's need well. In my experience, 8x42 is better than 10x42 because the former one will have a brighter view. Imgaine you are in dense woods, during dawn or dusk. I am using a Nikon Monarch 10x42 price 1850. brightness 17.6 You will find 10x is too much for place like Tai Po Kau and brightness not enough without sunshine. Carmen always beats me in finding birds, may that be the reason ;D heheheee Ask the salesman to show you the specification sheet and compare each model before you make decision. Betty |
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Title: Re: Ask for binocular suggestion... Post by Betty on Sep 10th, 2004, 8:22am Nikon Sporter weight 720 gm, brightness 20.3 can also be a choice as once I e-mail to Nikon USA to enquire for binocular suggestion. Their reply is Sporter I 8x36. |
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Title: Re: Ask for binocular suggestion... Post by me_domchan on Sep 10th, 2004, 11:40am on 09/10/04 at 08:22:32, Betty wrote:
This is the one I use..ha.ha.ha.... The Sporter I 10X42 model is kinda dim too. Now, sounds like Olmypus 8X42 is a good choice!! It is much brighter and waterproof. Also.....avoid those have "ZOOM" function |
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Title: Re: Ask for binocular suggestion... Post by dtse on Sep 10th, 2004, 4:21pm Hii all, I am using Olympus 8x42 EXWPI (after seeking some valuable advice from Mr. Or, Carmen's dad) for over 6 months and I agree with Betty's view of its outstanding brightness. I could identify very fine objects in low lighting conditions. The water-proof feature also provide you with a peace of mind when using it in bad weather. However, you have to put up with its chormatic abberation which is quite noticeable when facing the bright sky. Cheers. David |
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Title: Re: Ask for binocular suggestion... Post by schindler on Sep 11th, 2004, 10:02am Hello all, Thanks all~! The following has been posted elsewhere, but I think it's worthwhile to share with those who like using binocular :) Finally I bought a Nikon Monarch 8X42 at Kowloon Photo Service for $1,700. Originally I want to buy Olympus 10X42 which cost $1,650. It's however the Nikon 10X42 cost $1,800 only for the almost identical configugration: nitrogen-filled, water and fog proof. And then thanks for the suggestion from the sale and you guys, I decided to gain more brightness which is very important in bird-watching, I go for Nikon 8 X 42. One of the considerations between Olympus and Nikon is that the weight, Nikon weight 50g less than Olympus (610 vs 660). Since I have to bring the heavy 10D and heavy Tamron 200-500, I don't want to kill myself. Besides, I love the NIKON and believe it has good QC even it's made in CHINA. OK, let's go for a brief comment on this new toy: Disadvantages: 1.) noticable Chromatic Aberrations when looking at white color under bright conditions, but acceptable. 2.) the caps in front of the bino are easily lossen Advantages: 1.) the feeling of holding it is good, the rubber make you feel tightly grab on it 2.) Excellent resolution, marginal resolution is acceptable 3.) 3D feeling strong enough 4.) Focus ring very smooth 5.) Short Minimal focus distance: 2.5m Happy Birding ;D |
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Title: Re: Ask for binocular suggestion... 雙筒問題 Post by zep on Nov 28th, 2005, 11:59am Has anybody tried the Busnell Elite binoculars? The ones on show (10x43) at the Convention Centre this weekend were very impressive in the hall - incredibly sharp and clear. Does an yone have experience of them in the field? |
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Title: Re: Ask for binocular suggestion... 雙筒問題 Post by Webcreeper on Nov 30th, 2005, 12:29am Haven’t tried it, but here is some reference info.: From worldtwitch (http://www.worldtwitch.com/optics.htm): While the vast majority of binoculars are now made by Japanese companies, the Japanese have thus far been unable or unwilling to market a product comparable to the top German models. The latest expensive bins from Japan Incorporated are the new Bushnell Elite 8x43 and 10x43. (Bushnell failed to renew their 30-year license of the Bausch & Lomb name, which they devalued to the point of uselessness by placing it on mediocre products.) The new Elites appear to be alternative-branded versions of the cheaper Pentax DCP SP binoculars. They look superficially like Swaro ELs, are extremely light (only 23/24 oz) thanks to a magnesium chassis, and offer very long eye relief (17.3/19.4mm). Close focus (9 feet) is too long by current industry standards and considerably longer than on the former B&L Elites or the similar Pentax bins. The main reason for interest in the new Elites, which are much less expensive than the top German bins, is that they can be returned for a full refund within a year of purchase. |
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Title: Re: Ask for binocular suggestion... 雙筒問題 Post by zep on Nov 30th, 2005, 6:56am Thanks, that's helpful |
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Title: Re: Ask for binocular suggestion... 雙筒問題 Post by camel on Nov 30th, 2005, 11:55pm I've been using Nikon Monarch 8x42 for the last three years. No complaints at all. Excellent value for money; nice grip, light weight and waterproof. |
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