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(Message started by: Sze on Sep 21st, 2004, 2:01am)
Title: Sahkalin Leaf Warbler ®w­¶®q¬hÅa
Post by Sze on Sep 21st, 2004, 2:01am
Sahkalin Leaf Warbler ®w­¶®q¬hÅa
Kowloon Park ¤EÀs¤½¶é
20/9/2004
Canon 300D 90-300mm USM

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Sorry for the poor photo quality!

http://www.fotop.net/albums2/hokszewong/Kln_Park_Sep2004/Kln_Park_20SEP_30012.jpg
http://www.hkbws.org.hk/fileServer/PhotoG/sze/sze_021.jpg
Title: Re: Arctic Warbler ·¥¥_¬hÅa
Post by HF_Cheung on Sep 21st, 2004, 10:20am
I believe this is a Pale-legged Leaf Warbler or Sahkalin Leaf Warbler (probably the latter).   See the "pale" on the leg.  Also, the contrast between the crown and the back (mantle) is huge.  The crown is much darker.

Arctic Warbler has more orange-grey leg, and little contrast between the crown and mentle.  Arctic Warbler have longer primary projection, and therfore the tail appears shorter.  Unfortunatlely this is not clearly seen on this photo.

One may find CY Wong's Arctic Warbler photo somewhere on the bulletin board.

HF Cheung
Title: Re: Arctic Warbler ·¥¥_¬hÅa
Post by me_domchan on Sep 21st, 2004, 10:40am
Sze...really in Kowloon Park? I can only see Tree Sparrow and Magpie Gobin in Kowloon Park...... :P :P :P :P ::) ::) ::)
Title: Re: Arctic Warbler ·¥¥_¬hÅa
Post by Sze on Sep 21st, 2004, 8:56pm

on 09/21/04 at 10:40:52, me_domchan wrote:
Sze...really in Kowloon Park? I can only see Tree Sparrow and Magpie Gobin in Kowloon Park...... :P :P :P :P ::) ::) ::)


Dominic! §Ú¯u«Y«Y¤E¤½¬[!
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Title: Re: Arctic Warbler ·¥¥_¬hÅa
Post by Sze on Sep 21st, 2004, 9:00pm

on 09/21/04 at 10:20:15, HF_Cheung wrote:
I believe this is a Pale-legged Leaf Warbler or Sahkalin Leaf Warbler (probably the latter).   See the "pale" on the leg.  Also, the contrast between the crown and the back (mantle) is huge.  The crown is much darker.

Arctic Warbler has more orange-grey leg, and little contrast between the crown and mentle.  Arctic Warbler have longer primary projection, and therfore the tail appears shorter.  Unfortunatlely this is not clearly seen on this photo.

One may find CY Wong's Arctic Warbler photo somewhere on the bulletin board.

HF Cheung


Dr Cheung! Thanks for your teaching ar!
I still have 3 poor quality photos, can they help you to identify the bird? Thanks again!
And one more question! What is the chinese name of "Sahkalin Leaf Warbler"? I cannot find it from "­»´ä¤ÎµØ«n³¾Ãþ"! Thanks a lot!


http://www.fotop.net/albums2/hokszewong/Kln_Park_Sep2004/Kln_Park_20SEP_30011.jpg
http://www.hkbws.org.hk/fileServer/PhotoG/sze/sze_028.jpg

http://www.fotop.net/albums2/hokszewong/Kln_Park_Sep2004/Kln_Park_20SEP_30010.jpg
http://www.hkbws.org.hk/fileServer/PhotoG/sze/sze_029.jpg

http://www.fotop.net/albums2/hokszewong/Kln_Park_Sep2004/Kln_Park_20SEP_30014.jpg
http://www.hkbws.org.hk/fileServer/PhotoG/sze/sze_030.jpg
Title: Re: Sahkalin Leaf Warbler
Post by pippenho on Sep 21st, 2004, 9:10pm
Sahkalin Leaf Warbler ®w­¶®q¬hÅa
Title: Re: Sahkalin Leaf Warbler
Post by Sze on Sep 21st, 2004, 9:41pm

on 09/21/04 at 21:10:28, pippenho wrote:
Sahkalin Leaf Warbler ®w­¶®q¬hÅa


Oh! Thanks a lot ar!
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Thanks again!
Title: Re: Sahkalin Leaf Warbler ®w­¶®q¬hÅa
Post by HF_Cheung on Sep 21st, 2004, 11:11pm
Sorry I have problem with the other three photos.  Without the leg colour, primary projection, and the crown/back contrast, I have no magic to play.

May be someone can help.

HF Cheung
Title: Re: Sahkalin Leaf Warbler ®w­¶®q¬hÅa
Post by Sze on Sep 21st, 2004, 11:19pm

on 09/21/04 at 23:11:29, HF_Cheung wrote:
Sorry I have problem with the other three photos.  Without the leg colour, primary projection, and the crown/back contrast, I have no magic to play.

May be someone can help.

HF Cheung


I think need someone to get a better quality photo ar!
I find it in ÁA±æ¥xªþªñªºÄé¤ì!
Hope other powerful "Gun" can get some good photos ar!
Dr. Cheung! Thanks for your help again ar!  :)
Title: Re: Sahkalin Leaf Warbler ®w­¶®q¬hÅa
Post by me_domchan on Sep 21st, 2004, 11:46pm

on 09/21/04 at 23:19:10, Sze wrote:
I think need someone to get a better quality photo ar!
I find it in ÁA±æ¥xªþªñªºÄé¤ì!
Hope other powerful "Gun" can get some good photos ar!
Dr. Cheung! Thanks for your help again ar!  :)



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Title: Re: Sahkalin Leaf Warbler ®w­¶®q¬hÅa
Post by Sze on Sep 22nd, 2004, 12:08am

on 09/21/04 at 23:46:00, me_domchan wrote:
which ÁA±æ¥x¡H;D


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Title: Re: Sahkalin Leaf Warbler ®w­¶®q¬hÅa
Post by BLee on Sep 22nd, 2004, 1:13pm
Sze,
Again, no regret.
We should continue letting more people to give concern about this environment.
BLee
Title: Re: Sahkalin Leaf Warbler ®w­¶®q¬hÅa
Post by pippenho on Sep 22nd, 2004, 7:45pm
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Sahkalin Leaf Warbler ®w­¶®q¬hÅa  
Kowloon Park ¤EÀs¤½¶é
22/9/2004 1D2 400mm f5.6

1.http://www.pbase.com/pippenho/image/34118312/original.jpg
http://www.hkbws.org.hk/fileServer/PhotoG/pippenho/pippenho_067.jpg

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http://www.pbase.com/image/34118313/original.jpg
http://www.hkbws.org.hk/fileServer/PhotoG/pippenho/pippenho_068.jpg

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http://www.hkbws.org.hk/fileServer/PhotoG/pippenho/pippenho_069.jpg

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http://www.pbase.com/image/34118316/original.jpg
http://www.hkbws.org.hk/fileServer/PhotoG/pippenho/pippenho_070.jpg

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http://www.pbase.com/image/34118317/original.jpg
http://www.hkbws.org.hk/fileServer/PhotoG/pippenho/pippenho_071.jpg

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http://www.pbase.com/image/34118318/original.jpg
http://www.hkbws.org.hk/fileServer/PhotoG/pippenho/pippenho_072.jpg

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http://www.pbase.com/image/34118319/original.jpg
http://www.hkbws.org.hk/fileServer/PhotoG/pippenho/pippenho_073.jpg

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http://www.pbase.com/image/34118320/original.jpg
http://www.hkbws.org.hk/fileServer/PhotoG/pippenho/pippenho_074.jpg

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http://www.hkbws.org.hk/fileServer/PhotoG/pippenho/pippenho_075.jpg

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http://www.hkbws.org.hk/fileServer/PhotoG/pippenho/pippenho_076.jpg
Title: Re: Sahkalin Leaf Warbler ®w­¶®q¬hÅa
Post by Sze on Sep 22nd, 2004, 8:05pm

on 09/22/04 at 19:45:06, pippenho wrote:
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Title: Re: Sahkalin Leaf Warbler ®w­¶®q¬hÅa
Post by me_domchan on Sep 23rd, 2004, 12:05am
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Title: Re: Sahkalin Leaf Warbler ®w­¶®q¬hÅa
Post by Etta on Sep 23rd, 2004, 11:09am
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on 09/23/04 at 00:05:49, me_domchan wrote:
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Title: Re: Sahkalin Leaf Warbler ®w­¶®q¬hÅa
Post by Etta on Sep 23rd, 2004, 11:14am
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on 09/23/04 at 00:05:49, me_domchan wrote:
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Dear Dom,

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Title: Re: Sahkalin Leaf Warbler ®w­¶®q¬hÅa
Post by me_domchan on Sep 23rd, 2004, 11:21am

on 09/23/04 at 11:09:24, Etta wrote:
Dear Dom,

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Title: Re: Sahkalin Leaf Warbler ®w­¶®q¬hÅa
Post by Paul Leader on Sep 23rd, 2004, 5:12pm
Of the ten photos posted by pippenho, 1, 2 and 8 are almost certainly an Arctic Warbler (leg colour, lower mandible colour, primary projection length, one narrow wing bar). whereas the rest are a Greenish Warbler (two wing bars, especially broad on the greater coverts, leg colour, unmarked lower mandible, relatively short primary projection, long second primary, largely plain ear-coverts and long supercilium reaching the bill (stops short on Arctic Warbler).

The very first picture is probably a Pale-legged Leaf Warbler as the primary projection looks too short for Sakhalin Leaf Warbler, however, they are extremely difficult, even trapped birds...
Title: Re: Sahkalin Leaf Warbler ®w­¶®q¬hÅa
Post by Sze on Sep 23rd, 2004, 7:22pm

on 09/23/04 at 17:12:59, Paul Leader wrote:
Of the ten photos posted by pippenho, 1, 2 and 8 are almost certainly an Arctic Warbler (leg colour, lower mandible colour, primary projection length, one narrow wing bar). whereas the rest are a Greenish Warbler (two wing bars, especially broad on the greater coverts, leg colour, unmarked lower mandible, relatively short primary projection, long second primary, largely plain ear-coverts and long supercilium reaching the bill (stops short on Arctic Warbler).

The very first picture is probably a Pale-legged Leaf Warbler as the primary projection looks too short for Sakhalin Leaf Warbler, however, they are extremely difficult, even trapped birds...



Dear Paul Leader !
Thank you so much for your teaching !
We have learned more!  :D
Title: Re: Sahkalin Leaf Warbler ®w­¶®q¬hÅa
Post by pippenho on Sep 23rd, 2004, 8:15pm

on 09/23/04 at 17:12:59, Paul Leader wrote:
Of the ten photos posted by pippenho, 1, 2 and 8 are almost certainly an Arctic Warbler (leg colour, lower mandible colour, primary projection length, one narrow wing bar). whereas the rest are a Greenish Warbler (two wing bars, especially broad on the greater coverts, leg colour, unmarked lower mandible, relatively short primary projection, long second primary, largely plain ear-coverts and long supercilium reaching the bill (stops short on Arctic Warbler).

The very first picture is probably a Pale-legged Leaf Warbler as the primary projection looks too short for Sakhalin Leaf Warbler, however, they are extremely difficult, even trapped birds...


Hi Paul
Thanks for the identification, two more photos of
TWO-BARRED GREENISH WARBLER ·tºñ¬hÅa
Kowloon Park ¤EÀs¤½¶é
22/9/04
11.
http://www.pbase.com/image/34151984/original.jpg

12.
http://www.pbase.com/image/34152393/original.jpg


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